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Series 3 Land Rover 1981
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kevin2306



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ellis wrote:
Just a thought.

As you have put LWB wheels on with 7.50 16 tyres on the gearing has changed and ideally you should look for a Series 3 LWB (109) speedometer with a different calibration for an accurate speed reading.


My lightweight on lwb rims never went fast enough to worry about such details Very Happy

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi
Ellis wrote:
Just a thought.

As you have put LWB wheels on with 7.50 16 tyres on the gearing has changed and ideally you should look for a Series 3 LWB (109) speedometer with a different calibration for an accurate speed reading.


What is the difference in external diameter of the tyres?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Ellis & Penman,

I read about the different speedos on here:

http://www.land-rover.org/category/gauges/

My speedo seems VERY inaccurate, it was before and after the change of wheels..... it seems to only read up to 30MPH.

I will verify this sometime in the next week by taking my Sat Nav for a short trip and compare speed readings ~ will let you know the outcome Confused Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi
As most speedos over read by 2 to 3 MPH at around 30 they would probably have to be over 10% bigger to leave you travelling faster than indicated on a normally serviceable speedo.
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Calum



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your speedo might be correct anyway - 7.50 tyres were optional on 88"s and were increasingly popular as the years went by. I have a feeling one is 1408 and the other 1536 TPM (the latter is for 6.00 tyres)

If it is reading very low it could be the cable. Mine only works intermittently due to a dead cable I still haven't replaced, but when it does, it reads way under!
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Ellis



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm looking at a Series 3 109" speedo head as I post this and the TPM figure is 1376.

On a Series 2 109" the figure is 1408.
Why the difference I wonder?
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D4B



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

View from the cab, after mounting my spare wheel on the bonnet Wink



Forgot all about checking the speedpo against the sat nav sorry!!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just putting it back in the garage, put it into reverse, and the gear lever snapped clean off at floor level!!

Oh well at least I know what I'm doing this weekend..............



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kevin2306



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great place to break down tho eh!

Kev
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've seen that happen before Surprised When I was about 19 (so that's 1969) a group of guys and gals who went by the name of Fred Inc. hung out at the same café. The washed cars to make a bit of extra cash and they had a Landie. Only one had a full driving licence but the others drove it on provisionals which may have had a bearing on the gear lever breaking. It broke not far from my house and one of them came to see if I could help. I could see that it wasn't a roadside fix so I took the gearbox lid off and selected 3rd. gear to get it moving. I can't remember them getting it fixed though.

Two break in 45 years..... I see a pattern developing. Smile

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kevin2306



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Needs a factory recall if u ask me
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks chaps, yes it's flush to the floor so I can see it's going to need some dismantling!



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vitesse



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ouch that was lucky you were at home Steve.

I suppose it's easier to buy a new one than try to weld it isn't it.

I remember when I was in the RAF it was quite common to see Land Rovers with metal collars welded to the bottom of the gear sticks.

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Calum



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quite a common problem! Thankfully not one I have experienced!

Some later speedos were 1376 TPM and I don't know why they changed (the speedo drive probably changed too?)
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Started to look into this problem, the simplicity of the design is delightful,
but the years of crud and rust (chassis) is not...

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