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1952 "beetleback" Phase 1a Vanguard
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:03 am    Post subject: 1952 "beetleback" Phase 1a Vanguard Reply with quote

Morning all,

Although I doubt that dynamically driving one of these would be particularly electrifying, I like the look of these dependable old girls and would happily pootle about in one. Has anyone here owned a Phase 1 or 1a (or a Phase 2 for that matter)?

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to disagree with you Rick on the electrifying dynamics!

I think it's likely to be all over the place if driven with verve.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a Phase 2, it handled like two drunken heifers riding a tandem with flat tyres, but it was an imposing brute. On crossplies it would tram line and follow any fault in the road, a nightmare if the utility companies had been in the area. On radials you needed a can of spinach on board to be able to park it. Great cars, built like tanks.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a Phase 2 back in the mid '60s. My car prior to that was a Triumph Renown which was virtually identical mechanically.
I rather liked it and I thought the distinct boot was far better looking than the beetle-back.
Very dependable but very heavy steering.
The engine was used in Fergie tractors and the Triumph Roadsters up to the TR4
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My dad, a civilian, had a RAF one as a staff car in the early/mid 1950s when he was the Station Engineer (Electrical) at RAF Strubby in Lincolnshire. It was the first car I 'drove' - or rather steered - sitting on his lap.

I remember one day during a school holiday he needed something from central stores which were in one of the airship hangars at Cardington and I was allowed to go as a treat with his driver, a round trip of 200 miles. It must have been during the winter as I was sat on a cushion so I could see through the windscreeen, wrapped in a blanket and given a hot water bottle by my mum!
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't forget, the engine was also offered by Morgan.....
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 5:37 pm    Post subject: as per subject Reply with quote

hi all,my dad purchased one in mid fifties after driving a 1947 Austin 8 saloon .drove like a mini tank and he showed me how to negotiate corners with it in top gear and no changing down!! The engine torque was amazing.The same engine setup was put in the humber hawk so he bought one of them as well.That car drove like a Sherman tank so he cooled off a little and went for a Vauxhall cresta.Great days of the post war""car wars"era and glad I was a part of it....cheers--ray the rocker.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Humber Hawk had quite a reasonable Rootes 4 cylinder engine that was quite successful when also used in the Sunbeam Talbots for the Monte Carlo Rally. I can't think why you'd want to put a Standard/Triumph 2 litre in a Hawk.

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