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Classic49



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:37 am    Post subject: Air Horn Connections Reply with quote

I am renovating the wiring on a 1934 pre-series Morris Eight which has a pair of wind horns mounted on the front. There is a button on an "accessory" arm on the steering column which creates an earth connection when pushed. However, the horns are already earthed by virtue of being fixed to the body.

Advice requested please on how best to wire these up.


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PAUL BEAUMONT



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, Your Morris uses the same "accessory arm" as my Jowett Bradford, I believe. As you say the horn push works by completing the earth circuit (in my case with varying results) are you sure that the horns use the casing as an earth return. If they do I can only suggest that you mount them on insulators and use the earth return from the horn push to complete the circuit. It might be possible to power them through a relay using the earth return to actuate the relay. Whether the response would be quick enough, only experiment would show..
Good luck!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think powering via a horn relay would the safest approach and would also save your push button from the very heavy current that these horns draw.

Peter
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Classic49



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys. Some useful ideas. I think replacing the existing wiring is probably the best way forward to also accommodate the supply to the centre fog light.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

peter scott wrote:
I think powering via a horn relay would the safest approach and would also save your push button from the very heavy current that these horns draw.

Peter


Agreed!
If these are Lucas WindTones or similar they need a good deal of current to make the right noise. A relay is far & away the best & safest bet to get the right result.
Connect the horn button to the ground side of the relay & make sure the horns themselves have a good solid ground. The result should be a loud "Paaaaaaaaaaarp" like a Bentley, not a "fa*t" !
A beautiful & classic sound.
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Classic49



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks everyone for the suggestion of the relay - a very sensible idea. Have fitted one with a built in 30A fuse.

The only problem is that, on a 6 volt system, the current drawn by the pair of windhorns was enough to blow the 25A auxiliary fuse in the CFR2 Cut Out. Plan to up to a 30/35A fuse and do some adjustment to reduce the current drain.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you can safely move the main power to the relay direct to the battery.
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