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mikeC
Joined: 31 Jul 2009 Posts: 1775 Location: Market Warsop, Nottinghamshire
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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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troutrunner wrote: |
If you check out this link to Google images, they appear to be on the left and I am pretty sure my Mk1 A40, that's waiting in the wings for work, has left hand ones also. The thing being is that the light switch is near enough the same as my A30 and that definitely has the light switch on the right.
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I think the A30 has the indicator switch in the centre of the dashboard?
... and edit: so too does the Mk1 Farina A40:
So I suppose these qualify for early left-hand positioning ... _________________ in the garage: 1938 Talbot Ten Airline
Recently departed: 1953 Lancia Appia, 1931 Austin Seven, 1967 Singer Chamois, 1914 Saxon, 1930 Morris Cowley, 1936 BSA Scout, 1958 Lancia Appia coupe, 1922 Star 11.9 ... the list goes on! |
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troutrunner
Joined: 03 Dec 2012 Posts: 185 Location: South Lincolnshire
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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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BigJohn wrote: | I believe indicator location has now come full circle, as they are not fitted on BMW's or Audi's any more
I'll get my coat.... |
_________________ Paul
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1937 Ford Model Y.
1939 Austin 10.
1955 Austin A30.
1958 Ford 300E van.
1961 Austin A40.
1964 Wolseley Hornet.
1965 Series2a Land Rover.
1968 Wolseley Hornet.
1994 Peugeot 405 Est. 2of.
Nil illegitimi Carborundum
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troutrunner
Joined: 03 Dec 2012 Posts: 185 Location: South Lincolnshire
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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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OK Half right then but I know the A30 indicator is in the middle, I was referring to the light switches being very similar and on the right on both A40 and A30........... _________________ Paul
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1937 Ford Model Y.
1939 Austin 10.
1955 Austin A30.
1958 Ford 300E van.
1961 Austin A40.
1964 Wolseley Hornet.
1965 Series2a Land Rover.
1968 Wolseley Hornet.
1994 Peugeot 405 Est. 2of.
Nil illegitimi Carborundum |
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alastairq
Joined: 14 Oct 2016 Posts: 1953 Location: East Yorkshire
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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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troutrunner wrote: | BigJohn wrote: | I believe indicator location has now come full circle, as they are not fitted on BMW's or Audi's any more
I'll get my coat.... |
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Not entirely true........the ''i'' after the numbers was for 'indicators'..... |
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MikeEdwards
Joined: 25 May 2011 Posts: 2470 Location: South Cheshire
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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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When swapping between my classics (seventies Vauxhalls) and my modern (an Audi, which must have had indicators specified as an option, if what you all say is correct...) I am finding that it doesn't usually take long for me to allow someone out of a side road by operating the wipers at them. |
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BigJohn
Joined: 01 Jan 2011 Posts: 954 Location: Wem, Shropshire
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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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I usually flash the washers, which can be unfortunate for any pedestrians as my headlight washers are very powerful and bounce sideways off the glass. |
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emmerson
Joined: 30 Sep 2008 Posts: 1268 Location: South East Wales
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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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One of the earliest left hand indicator switches must have been on the Triumph 2000 mk 1. if I remember it right, as the optional overdrive switch was on the right, to allow for split changes.
But go back a bit further, and what about the Austin A35? It had a left hand operated indicator switch! |
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Richard H
Joined: 03 Apr 2009 Posts: 2148 Location: Lincolnshire, UK
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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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I think Japanese cars were still using the right hand indicator switch well into the '80s. German cars had been left hand for years before though; my Royale, which is a rebadged Opel Senator/Commodore A, has left hand indicators while my FE Victor, a British Vauxhall design, had them on the right. _________________ Richard Hughes |
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mikeC
Joined: 31 Jul 2009 Posts: 1775 Location: Market Warsop, Nottinghamshire
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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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Richard H wrote: | I think Japanese cars were still using the right hand indicator switch well into the '80s. |
Japanese cars still used right hand indicators into the 21st century: our 2000 Micra was so fitted, as also do our 2004 & 2005 Hyundais - I know, they're Korean! _________________ in the garage: 1938 Talbot Ten Airline
Recently departed: 1953 Lancia Appia, 1931 Austin Seven, 1967 Singer Chamois, 1914 Saxon, 1930 Morris Cowley, 1936 BSA Scout, 1958 Lancia Appia coupe, 1922 Star 11.9 ... the list goes on! |
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Ray White
Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 6312 Location: Derby
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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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This takes me back to my student days! When I fitted indicators to my A30 I originally located a rotary switch in the middle of the dash just under the windscreen as found on later cars. I was never happy with it so I took the column switch from a scrapped Mk11 A40 and to my delight found it fitted perfectly to the column opposite the light switch which was very similar to the A40. I still had the (then) peculiar feeling of left hand operation but it was so much better than reaching out to the rotary switch I resigned myself to it.
It probably never occurred to me that I might have been able to swap over the column mounted lights and indicators!
When I fitted flashing indicators to my Dodge Brothers tourer I mounted a rotary switch on the right side of the dash because it seems to me that if you give manual signals with your right arm then it is only natural to use your right hand to operate a switch for the same purpose. |
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Richard H
Joined: 03 Apr 2009 Posts: 2148 Location: Lincolnshire, UK
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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mikeC wrote: | Richard H wrote: | I think Japanese cars were still using the right hand indicator switch well into the '80s. |
Japanese cars still used right hand indicators into the 21st century: our 2000 Micra was so fitted, as also do our 2004 & 2005 Hyundais - I know, they're Korean! |
Ah I see! I assumed they'd switched over to the left earlier than that as my Rover 600, which is effectively a Honda Accord, has the indicators on the left. _________________ Richard Hughes |
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poodge
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 687
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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:57 am Post subject: |
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My A30 and A35 both had the bakelite switch in the centre of the dashboard.
In the early 70's,we could still buy an accessory indicator stalk,with a lighbulb in the stalk end,which i fitted to the A35.On the left,because of the lightswitch was still on the right.
My brother somehow got hold of a multi use indicator stalk out of an Escort,which was still a fairly new model in NZ,and managed to get it all to work in his A35.Fitted on the right of course.
As noted ,all my Japanese cars have had their indicator switch,or rather,multi-use stalk fitted on the right. |
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Ray White
Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 6312 Location: Derby
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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 10:50 am Post subject: |
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Thinking back to it, the bakelite switch on the dash of the A30 was probably original equipment and would have operated traficator arms. It was my father in law who felt an upgrade to flashers was needed. I remember looking at the accessory stalk but the beauty of the Mk2 A40 switch was that it had a cast metal mounting that was a mirror image of the light switch used on both cars. There might also have been a question about whether the original bakelite switch was robust enough for the conversion. |
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Whitegoatie
Joined: 01 Feb 2016 Posts: 59 Location: Stamford, Lincolnshire
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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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Mines the big knob in the middle!
[img]IMG_7668 by Jeremy Ball, on Flickr[/img] |
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Penman
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 4756 Location: Swindon, Wilts.
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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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Hi
Because the dash switch on the A30/35 didn't self cancel, there was an after market replacement with springs in it which gave a timed cancellation.
It is possible that BMC later adopted it as standard equipment. _________________ Bristols should always come in pairs.
Any 2 from:-
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