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Disposing of old fluids (oil, petrol etc)
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 1:03 pm    Post subject: Disposing of old fluids (oil, petrol etc) Reply with quote

Hi all,

Getting rid of old engine oil is fairly straightforward at the local tip - errr, recycling centre, with its gungy old tank designed to take used engine oil.

How should we dispose of old coolant (with antifreeze in it), or decades-old petrol from a drained tank?

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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old coolant is the tricky one. Pretty much everything else is flammable to some extent and can be disposed of whilst burning other rubbish.
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bitumen Boy wrote:
Old coolant is the tricky one. Pretty much everything else is flammable to some extent and can be disposed of whilst burning other rubbish.


I remember that burning rubbish in a back garden was fairly common when I was a nipper (neighbours usually), does it still go on a lot? I haven't seen a garden bonfire for years, saying that a local business used to enjoy burning all manner of things - usually when our washing was on the line, grr. I'm not sure that chucking old petrol onto a garden bonfire would prove popular with neighbours, the council, or my eyebrows!!!

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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There always seems to be a garden fire burning in our village at he weekend, usually just as my better half has just put washing on the line!

I quite like the smell of a fire burning, it reminds me a lot of my childhood at my Grandparents place where a bonfire was a regular occurrence. My wife on the other hand was brought up in a very large town/city and she cannot stand the smell!
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it's not full of grit I'd say just mix the old petrol with a fair dilution of fresh stuff and burn it in your engine. If it is full of grit I guess you could filter it first.

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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of my earliesr memories is of my parents getting rid of our old straw palliasses on the bonfire. My goodness didn't they go up!

Cheers, Tony.
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rick wrote:
Bitumen Boy wrote:
Old coolant is the tricky one. Pretty much everything else is flammable to some extent and can be disposed of whilst burning other rubbish.


I remember that burning rubbish in a back garden was fairly common when I was a nipper (neighbours usually), does it still go on a lot? I haven't seen a garden bonfire for years, saying that a local business used to enjoy burning all manner of things - usually when our washing was on the line, grr. I'm not sure that chucking old petrol onto a garden bonfire would prove popular with neighbours, the council, or my eyebrows!!!

RJ


Lots of rubbish burning round these parts, also lots of flytipping - the natural consequences of the stupid local council limiting rubbish collections to try to boost recycling rates of the largely non-recyclable rubbish that big business loves to lumber us with. Still, it's always easier to crack down on the little people... Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2018 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We can dispose of old oil etc at the local tip.

It’s not a great place to visit because it’s so busy and the muddle people get into with mini trailers. Often they’ve even blocked the main road.
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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2018 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Ashley
The quarry near Horsley???.
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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2018 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A relevant question for me.
I have been obliged to change my diesel tank from a plastic single skin type to a bunded one and have emptied the old tank.
Our local council will accept the old tank as long as an effort has been made to decontaminate it.

You would not believe the condition of the diesel fuel at the bottom, it resembled a muddy sludge and there are nearly ten gallons of it in plastic containers but how I dispose of that I don't know.
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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2018 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Might be of interest to some - have a look on youtube for DIY waste oil heaters, there are some simple designs that seem to work really well burning pretty much anything. Could be worth investigating for anyone who has a fleet of oldies as I know some forum members do.
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My way to get rid of old petrol, just tip it on the ground , it will evaporate . Do not strike a match !
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Swap the modern daily driver for an old Daihatsu Fourtrak diesel. [The Independent drives the road better]

Then anything that might possibly burn, or go 'bang', can be shoved in its tank, the engine will run faultlessly.
Just make sure, if pouring in the remains of stuff like paintbrush cleaners, or old petrol..that a small quantity of any sort of lubricating oil is added.

If one happens to have some genuine diesel in the tank as well, so much the better!!

[This, from someone who has one of the above...and who unintentionally [I don't have accidents!]....added 25 litres of petrol to the tank.....the Daihatsu engine ran without a hitch..even after I added a small bottle of Halfords lawn mower oil.....not that I'd recommend using petrol as a cost saving measure...but at the time it was over 10 p a litre cheaper than proper diesel! I once thought I had emptied a spare fuel can of diesel into it..only to find I had emptied diesel, plus the underseal washings...picked up wrong can....Note to self...must get cans of different colours in future. I have dome stick oil heating...handy if ever my pension runs out too early?]

Warning..the above may not work with any other kind of modern diesel...

I wonder how many narrow boats are now powered by daihatsu diesels??
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

By coincidence, the question of anti-freeze disposal came up on another site, and one of the responses was:

" I once asked this question of Severn Trent Water. They obviously reiterated that garages must dispose of used antifreeze via proper waste disposal channels, but they recognise that someone changing his coolant at home cannot do so. They advised that small quantities can safely be disposed of by flushing down the toilet. It will be such a small concentration that sewerage works will be able to handle it.

It should never be poured down drains, as it will go direct into water courses."
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 8:09 am    Post subject: disposal fluids Reply with quote

here we. ought to contact local council whom can advise correct approved disposal contractors etc .
old oil is collected at many recycling centres ( tips) and is filtered and reused as heating oil etc .
coolant is a different matter. local water authority will prosecute if you pour it down drains!
not actually seen how a council will handle that request!
as to old fluids being used to mix with fuel and burnt in engines..though older engines with simpler systems and. no pollution controls etc can handle a certain amount of 'crap' mixed in assuming it gets past filter..
modern common rail engines are susceptible to fuel dilution and it can get VERY expensive .in diesels mainly due to very high. pump pressures involved.
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