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Ray White



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2018 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I may have blundered in with my comments. One particular fairly quick Ford that I remember from my teens was the Corsair GT. This was a low milage 2 door saloon with the 1500 engine. It tuned up quite well and my Dad got the most out of it. I believe they are practically extinct in RHD form and today would be very sought after. I really did like the Corsair GT 1500 but the V4 was pretty horrible, it has to be said.
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alastairq



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We're all focussed {!} on the higher performance versions of Escort, etc.....far outnumbered by the basic 1100, & 1300 bog standard versions...which are the ones I usually came into contact with.
These weren't driven about with drivers dreaming of being the next Clark or Makinen....but by ordinary folk, who really didn't care much about the motoring world, merely wanting to get from A to B cheaply.
The Escort & Cortina were 'company car of choice' in their millions. Reducing to the status of a fridge or washing machine.
Later usurped [my opinion] by Cavalier & Astra.

Despite their attributes regarding road holding & performance [1100 Escort??], they fail to excite me...much like Austin Cambridges?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agree, an Austin Cambridge would be just as boring. BUT it does have nice styling and details, things the Escort and Cortina do not have (Mk1 Cortina maybe excluded). It is something that 50s and 60s ordinary cars did have, but not their successors. The boring decade of the 70s is to blame.
A 60s Cambridge is quite likable, but not the Morris Marina. Same for a 60s Hillman Minx compared to an Avenger. Etc. My opinion of course - each to their own.
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Ray White



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alastair. I think it is because we are old enough to remember driving these cars when they were current that we feel little affection for them. There were many cars that we remember as being dull as ditchwater - that today are fetching what you might call silly money. My Dad would have paid beer money for his pre war cars - today they are fetching thousands!. The same with motorbikes. They still have the same faults now as they did back then but a later generation view them differently.
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Ray White



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

badhuis wrote:
Agree, an Austin Cambridge would be just as boring. BUT it does have nice styling and details, things the Escort and Cortina do not have (Mk1 Cortina maybe excluded). It is something that 50s and 60s ordinary cars did have, but not their successors. The boring decade of the 70s is to blame.
A 60s Cambridge is quite likable, but not the Morris Marina. Same for a 60s Hillman Minx compared to an Avenger. Etc. My opinion of course - each to their own.


Funny you should mention the Marina. I had a dream the other night that I was being given a new company car. The Boss handed me a key with Morris on the fob and said I would like it. I was expecting it to be a Morris 1800 Landcrab but when I got outside it was my old Morris Marina in the parking space. Shocked Shocked Shocked

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alastairq



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh dear...! Sad

Thank you, Ray, for confirming things.....With the advancing years, comes a certain realisation of realities.
Whether they are politics, the society we now live amongst, or, old cars.

I have no affection for Cambridges [or Oxfords] from a driver's viewpoint..I have made my views known on these motors before...having used them 'in anger', so to speak.

But, I do admit, a Farina Cambridge, Oxford, or Wolseley would be, a 'nice thing to have'......although I would be reluctant to use it as I use my other two [three, really] roadworthy oldies.
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Ray White



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I feel I must rush to the defence of the poor old Austin Cambridge!! All I can say is that when I was given an immaculate, low milage, Mk1 Austin Cambridge for my 21st birthday, I was delighted. The seats were real leather and the paintwork had real depth. The substantial doors closed with the convincing "clunk" of a railway carriage and once inside you felt "protected" by the ambience of sturdy build quality. My car fortunately had the more desirable floor change and while the A55 would never claim to have sporting pretensions the "B" series engine produced adequate power for a reasonable sized saloon of it's type.

The later, 'Farina' Austin Cambridge (Mk2 A55/A60) has it's supporters, I am sure, but the A55 Mk1 was a good, solid car which in my opinion was a better car to drive than it's predecessor with the pre war styling (which I like).

The original Austin Cambridge with the divided rear window had, I believe, a 10 hp side valve engine which let it down rather. They must be getting quite rare now?
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BigJohn



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alastairq wrote:
We're all focussed {!} on the higher performance versions of Escort, etc.....far outnumbered by the basic 1100, & 1300 bog standard versions...which are the ones I usually came into contact with.
These weren't driven about with drivers dreaming of being the next Clark or Makinen....but by ordinary folk, who really didn't care much about the motoring world, merely wanting to get from A to B cheaply.

As a 19yr old apprentice with a 1300 Escort, I and my friends did not just consider our cars as just A-B transport. We couldn't afford the high performance versions so had to adapt our lesser models to suit, (they weren't bad for courting either!) Later as a young cop the predictable handling of 1100/1300 basic Mk2 Escorts made them a hoot to drive as an urban police car. RWD Escorts, any type, legends to young guys of the 70's.
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