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Can anyone ID this switch please + maybe cross-ref?
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greenbeam



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:25 am    Post subject: Can anyone ID this switch please + maybe cross-ref? Reply with quote

Happy New Year all,
I am working on the instruments and switches for my 1935 Armstrong Siddeley and need to refurbish the headlamp and ignition/starter switches.

Is anyone able to positively ID the Lucas model (and perhaps cross-ref to a more common vehicle)? I haven't found anything that's an exact match from Holden's, Complete Automobilist, etc. The switch has Lucas PLC on it, but it's not a PLC2 or 5/6 etc.

For the headlamp switch, I just need a new face/label. Failing one available to buy, I intend to get some kind of vinyl stick-on label made and stick it over the existing one.

For the ignition/starter switch, I could do the same for the face/label, but I also need to repair the gouged-out key slot. Any advice on tackling that would be very welcome. I have a vague hope that someone is reproducing them (call me an optimist! Smile

Anyhow, photos of the switches for hopeful ID and cross-ref.




Cheers,
Paul.

PS - I desperately owe a progress update on the car, will do that shortly. Great progress made in 2018!
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DM



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Location: North Cornwall

PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Possibly Model no SX4-3 type L 2/33 12volts

Looking at the wiring it should not be too hard to fit a modern 3 position switch in place of the bendix switch but you would possibly need to add a remote starter switch.

http://www.da7c.co.uk/History%20Section/LUCAS%20ACHIVE/Lucas%20Instructions%20for%20Electric%20Lighting%20&%20Equipment%20&%20Accessories.pdf

For a new face try your local Trophi engravers, should be a simple job for them to cut and engrave a new one.
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petelang



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you tried ASOC Stores? You will be amazed at just what they have. The Startix especially is going to be a Siddeley peculiarity so I'm sure other club members will be able to help.
Peter
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greenbeam



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll try the stores, but not holding my breath for something like this. I don't believe my 17HP has Startix, so this switch must have been swapped in at some point. I'm hoping that a close-up of the ASHT 17HP car will show the correct original switch.

I'd rather stay original than fit a later switch.

Thanks for the ref number though, I'll start googling and see if anything comes up.
Cheers,
Paul.
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greenbeam



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've updated the main thread about the car too: http://www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/forum/phpbb/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=165580#165580
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had to google Startix....nothing new under the sun, is there? Smile
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Bitumen Boy



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

petelang wrote:
Have you tried ASOC Stores? You will be amazed at just what they have. The Startix especially is going to be a Siddeley peculiarity so I'm sure other club members will be able to help.
Peter


Startix was at least an option on some Triumph models of much the same era, but don't ask me which..!
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47Jag



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was fitted to my old neighbour’s Standard 9 (1936 I think).

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HRSC_Sam



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From my basic knowledge startix was a automatic starting system on a cars of the late 30s, I’ve seen them on Wolsey, standard, and triumph so must be a item that’s still available but I’ve only seen the on off switch’s never seen one with manual, off and auto
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greenbeam



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the info everone. I wasn't successful in finding good used or reproduction switches, so set about refurbishing the ones I have. Stripped them down, had the bodies rechromed, and had new vinyl labels made with the same text and font as the originals. The ignition/starter switch had the key slot gouged out, so I had that silver soldered closed, then reformed the key slot before getting it chromed.

I had a sheet of labels made, so if anyone else has similar switches, I have some spare.
Cheers,
Paul.
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