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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 12:20 am    Post subject: Standard Vanguard Phase 1 pickup Reply with quote

G'day,

Freshly imported from Australia, there'll be some keen interest in this lovely old Vanguard pickup/ute I'm sure, especially being such an early example of the breed.

https://ebay.to/2TDv8oJ



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was one of those, and an A70 Hampshire pick-up in a local scrap dealers yard about 30 years ago. In spite of my asking to buy them, they both went in the crusher!
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

'Pick-up' is an American title. The design of a car body to the rear of the front seat and a luggage tray behind that- i.e. a 'car' for car purposes and a light truck for farm and other purposes, combined into one vehicle was an Australian development in the early 1930's by the Ford Motor Company. From then on the arrangement was known as a 'Utility Vehicle' or a 'Ute' for short. Most other manufacturers copied the concept and ever since the Ute has been part of the Australian road scene. Prior to the development of the Ute many cars were cut down and fitted with a tray, but the proper ute is a totally factory built machine.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are Utes still being built?
Not taking about the American pick up trucks (Ford F150, Ram etc). Utes seem to have disappeared? Or are they still a main product in the Australian car world.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 4:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Australia no longer builds motor cars. In 2016 Ford Australia stopped production of the Falcon utes and in 2017 Holden ceased production of the Commodore series of utes. These cars are cult vehicles with very powerful engines, loaded with accessories and lowered. They are still very popular and will no doubt increase in value as time passes.

Other utes are available, mainly Asian. They are trying to take over from Ford and GM absence. Mazda, Nissan, Mitsubishi, Toyota, Great Wall etc. There is no shortage of them.

Utes were traditionally one piece bodies although a lot today are small trucks with separate trays.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dane, the Pick-up or Utility concept was not an Australian innovation, they have been around since the dawn of motoring. The Americans were certainly leading the field before the First World War - the Model T Ford Pick-up was a catalogued model in 1912, and this International Harvester Delivery Car also dates from 1912:



But there were one-offs primarily built for estate use dating back to the turn of the century.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike,

The traditional Aussie ute has a one piece body, not a tray built separately on the back.

https://www.hidrive.com.au/blog/brief-history-ute

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes Mike, the "Pick-up" concept has been around for a long long time, but the true 'ute' is a purpose built vehicle that was designed for rural dwellers. It was a car for Sunday and to take the Missus out in, but a work-horse for the rest of the time. the point being that the cabin accommodation was 'car quality', and not truck crudeness.

Keith D explains it well too.

You might like to read this explanation- https://www.drive.com.au/motor-feature/ford-australia--we-drive-the-original-ute-grkhr5
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But that's just my point: the passenger compartments in the Model T Ford and IH were identical to the standard car. The IH could even be bought as a 4-seater pick-up! In both cases the pick-up rear was an integral part of the body, not a separate box.


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