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Hydrogen, batteries and *The Future*
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Bitumen Boy



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Minxy wrote:
Rusty wrote:
47Jag wrote:
I personally canít see the attraction of converting a classic car to electric. I mean, what our hobby is all about is keeping ancient machines running, against all odds at some times.


I "shudder" every time I see prince Harry on the TV driving his electric E type, it just misses the point ! Out here we have a chap who does electric conversions on all sorts of vehicles and he drives (or used to, don't know if he still has it) a mid 60s electric Ford Mustang, and I am sorry, but hearing it glide silently past is just "Wrong".


I agree 100%......but in x amount of years time would you rather see that mustang glide past silently or not see it at all?


Yes, I'm not overly keen on the idea of "ruining" a classic by ripping its engine out and fitting an electric motor and battery pack, but if the only realistic options - apart from dumping it in a barn or garage to rot - are doing such a conversion or scrapping the car outright I think the conversion is the lesser of the evils. I can't see more than a tithe of our oldies finding homes in museums, I suspect we've reached near enough saturation point with museums now and doubt there will be any more interest in the future.
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Minxy



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alanb wrote:
Whatever type of battery used you can't get out more than you put in, so where is all this electricity going to come from? We don't generate enough for our needs now, we have to buy additional supplies in from France and maybe the French won't sell it to us after brexit


There is an initiative just being introduced called V2G (Vehicle to Grid) whereby when your EV is fully charged and plugged in the grid takes its stored energy and uses it at peak times then replaces it when demand is less. They then pay you for the privilege. This should mean less energy has to be Ďpurchasedí at peak times. Couple this with solar panels and you effectively have your own mini power station. All controlled by smart meter/phone so you are in control and your car is charged when you need it. Itís based on the fact that on average at any one time 90% of cars are sat doing nothing.
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Miken



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alanb wrote:
so where is all this electricity going to come from?


I would think the best people to ask this question to are the people who manufacture and distribute the stuff.
Surely they are the ones who know most about it.
So, If anyone should be concerned about keeping the lights on I would think it would be National Grid.
A quick search reveals that are very confident and actually support the proposal to bring the 2040 date forward to 2030.
https://www.fleetnews.co.uk/news/environment/2018/03/28/stop-the-sale-of-new-conventional-petrol-and-diesel-cars-by-2030-national-grid-tells-mps

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/937922/petrol-diesel-car-ban-electric-car-national-grid
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Bitumen Boy



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Minxy wrote:
All controlled by smart meter/phone so you are in control...


Until the Russians or Chinese hack the system..?

Call me an old luddite but I just don't trust this "smart" technology.
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