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Thomson & Taylor (Brooklands) Ltd - blueprint drawing
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 4:17 pm    Post subject: Thomson & Taylor (Brooklands) Ltd - blueprint drawing Reply with quote

Hi all,

Can anyone help id the car represented in the drawing below?

It's a sizeable blueprint, and very tricky to photograph in its glazed frame (hence the many reflections). In the lower left corner it's credited to Thomson & Taylor (Brooklands) Ltd, Brooklands Track, Byfleet Surrey, a company that was involved in the build of various Land Speed Record cars at the circuit, in the vintage era.

In faint handwritten ink it says "Reproduced by kind permission of Thomson & Taylors Aug 1970" - has anyone seen this before? Was the drawing reproduced in numbers to sell, say at Brooklands, or in a magazine, or elsewhere? The chap I bought it from didn't know much about it, other than it belonged previously to someone that had worked on the car shown - but what car/vehicle is it? and is it even LSR related, or something more mundane entirely?



Apologies for the horizontal scrolling required, but to shrink it too far would reduce the visible details.

A closer look at the engine:


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi
It is very low with the driver alongside the rear wheel and a relatively long bonnet.
Short slightly cranked gear lever visible and a vertical steering wheel behind the gear lever.

Have you seen what sort of cars they built?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomson_%26_Taylor#Notable_cars
t could be one of the Bluebirds the Napier and ERA look to tall and the Railton Special is driven from in front of the engine.

The engine could be a W12
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it might be Malcolm Campbell's Bluebird that used the Napier Lion engine in 1931 before he transferred to using Rolls Royce engines. In this car he took the record to 246.088mph.





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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 8:39 pm    Post subject: 1931 Blue Bird drawing (Thomson & Taylor) Reply with quote

I've been having another look at this old drawing, yes I think it is the design for the 1931 "Blue Bird".

It would seem that a company with the same name continued in car sales into the 1970s, perhaps they held the old drawings from the Brooklands days and it was from them that this drawing was acquired in 1970, hence the note about it being reproduced with their permission in August 1970.

I've fixed the links in the original post so that the drawings show once more.

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from http://www.lsrinmin.co.uk/Cutaways_2.html



Seems like a good match.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.speedace.info/golden_arrow.htm

Before Bluebird there was the Golden Arrow (1929)which resides at the NMM. When I was just a lad, I visited what was then the Montague Motor Museum. It was not the big attraction that it is today and Lord Montague was always pleased to show visitors around personally.

On one occasion I remember being awe struck by The Golden Arrow; so much so that his Lordship sat me behind the wheel where I could fantasise to my heart's content. While my Dad and His Lordship chatted about old cars my Mum took tea with her Ladyship.

That kind of thing could never happen these days.. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow! I love Golden Arrow too. Getting into the "cock pit" must have been a great experience.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

peter scott wrote:
Wow! I love Golden Arrow too. Getting into the "cock pit" must have been a great experience.

Peter


I can remember it like it was yesterday. The only downside I remember was when I went back to school brimming with enthusiasm ... but none of my mates had a clue what I was talking about. Sad

I also sat behind the wheel of AX 201; probably the most famous Rolls Royce of them all. I love that car. It was not hard to see why it was regarded as the best car in the World!

I was so lucky. It helped a lot that my Dad got on very well with Lord Montague. It proved to me that old cars can bring people together regardless of their station in life.

Mother, of course, was in her element. Rolling Eyes Laughing
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