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alastairq
Joined: 14 Oct 2016 Posts: 1954 Location: East Yorkshire
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Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 8:35 am Post subject: |
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Ray White wrote: | Has no one mentioned "La Jamais contente"???
Belgian Camile Jenatzy was the first to achieve 100KMPH (62mph) in 1899.
He was nicknamed 'the Red Devil" - colour of his beard!
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...and before the present generations go accusing us oldies of busting the planet, remember this record breaker was an electric car.... _________________ Dellow Mk2, 1951 built, reg 1952.
Fiat 126 BIS
Cannon special [1996 registered. Built in 1950's]
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Ford Pop chassis, Ashley 1172 bodyshell, in pieces. |
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Ray White
Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 6313 Location: Derby
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Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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There really is nothing new "under the Sun" (as the Good Book says). From what I can gather; at the turn of the 20th Century the horseless carriage could have evolved in one of three ways. Steam was the known and proven (if not generally understood) motive power and as survivors (particularly of the White) steam car demonstrates had many fine attributes; quietness of operation amongst them.
A second and increasingly popular mode of personal transport was the electric town car which was also quiet... and like the steamer required no gearbox. It's limitation was range and like the steamer it was a complicated machine that required frequent attention from an expert.
The new boy on the block was the internal combustion engine. It was not a forgone conclusion that this noisy engine would win out but it could be produced cheaply and was in many ways more practical.
How differently things could be today if the electric car had won the popularity contest. |
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alastairq
Joined: 14 Oct 2016 Posts: 1954 Location: East Yorkshire
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Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | and as survivors (particularly of the White) steam car demonstrates |
Don't forget the Doble?? _________________ Dellow Mk2, 1951 built, reg 1952.
Fiat 126 BIS
Cannon special [1996 registered. Built in 1950's]
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Ford Pop chassis, Ashley 1172 bodyshell, in pieces. |
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Writer1900
Joined: 09 Oct 2019 Posts: 3
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Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 6:29 pm Post subject: Top speeds in the 1900s |
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This is all fantastic information! Thank you everyone. I never expected so many helpful responses. Looks like I found a great board. |
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Ray White
Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 6313 Location: Derby
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Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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alastairq wrote: | Quote: | and as survivors (particularly of the White) steam car demonstrates |
Don't forget the Doble?? |
I didn't mention the Doble simply because it came later.
One of my all time favourite cars has to be the Doble steam car. Interestingly, the White steamer was the inspiration for the Doble Brothers to go on to greater things.
I would go as far as to say that given a choice of vintage car a Doble would be in the top three. |
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roverdriver
Joined: 18 Oct 2008 Posts: 1210 Location: 100 miles from Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
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Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:37 am Post subject: |
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I too have a fancy for a Doble, but it was a Stanley that I saw on a rally where the owner heated his lunch-time pies on the top of the boiler housing, and that gave it a certain appeal. An earlier steamer that I admired was the Locomobile, which IIRC was founded in 1899. They had a good turn of speed if road conditions allowed. _________________ Dane- roverdriver but not a Viking. |
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V8 Nutter
Joined: 27 Aug 2012 Posts: 587
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Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:46 am Post subject: |
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There was a 1908 Stanley Steamer on T.V. last night, the only one of that particular model in the U.K. The owner said it will do 70 m.p.h. on a good road |
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Ray White
Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 6313 Location: Derby
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Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 11:56 am Post subject: |
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As most of you will be aware there are two distinctly different types of steam boiler.
Stanley and Locomobile use a fire tube boiler which is like a big kettle and there is the risk of explosion.
Doble uses a water tube boiler which is perfectly safe. |
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