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Terry McGrath
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 Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 4:56 pm Post subject: 1933 SS1 |
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The registration plate has different style characters than I would normally associate with a maltese registration pre 1952 and there is no evidence of the Maltese cross that should preceed the number and if it was there the number should be offset to the right hand side of the plate and it doesn't look to be offset?
The airvents where after market accessories and were quite popular back in the 1930's
terry mcgrath tmcgrath@bigpond.com
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[quote="peterwpg"] | Penman wrote: |
Oct 10, 2009 - Times of Malta newspaper
This photograph depicts my grandmother and her husband's car, taken in Malta probably in the mid/late 1930s. My grandmother's name was Carmel Cassar (née Cachia) and her husband's name (my grandfather) was Carmello Cassar. They lived in Sliema, then St Julians, migrating to Australia in 1955.
The car has been identified as an SS I (1933 model) and is unlikely to have survived thus far, however some two per cent of such vehicles still exist... so there is some chance!
My investigations show that a single SSII (1935) was imported by Mizzi Bros but I am sure that this is not the car in the photograph, knowing that the car pictured is an SS I. The car depicted does have the rare air-vents at the base of the windshield.
The SS Factory (England) did mix and match model features, hence the confusion. If I could determine the engine-number, I could track the car to the factory.
It would be appreciated if any readers could assist in building an ownership history of this fine car. The assistance of the Touring Club of Malta (member of FIA) has been highly appreciated, with president Phil Agius trying on my behalf to investigate the registration history (registration "6102") and locating the site where the photographs were taken. Dr Agius is enthusiastic about the contribution to the Maltese motoring heritage and of sourcing similar photographs of Maltese motoring heritage from around the world.
Any information would be appreciated. Information could be forwarded to the Touring Club of Malta (Phil Agius) at info@touringclubmalta.org or fax 2123 8226 or PO Box 16, Msida, or directly to me at james@inkjet.com.au
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The photograph is definatly taken at the beach end of St Paul's Bay here in Malta. The site where the car and the lady are, is now covered by the main road leading to the right into the what was then the village. The buildings are still there. The road today turns right at the end and will take you to what is now the St Paul's Bay bypass. Times have changed! |
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Penman
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Location: Lancashire
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| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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Terry
I have passed your message about the Maltese car on to the originator, who is in Melbourne.
I think you are in the Antipodes as well are you not?
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Nic Jarman
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Location: Stoke by Clare, Suffolk
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| Rick wrote: | Well Super Seven has also been suggested by someone else, so that seems fairly conclusive now.
And next, this hefty old tourer - American??
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This could well be @1909 Clement Talbot
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roverdriver
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Nic, I agree that the radiator shape looks like a Clement Talbot, but the CT did not carry the shape through into the bonnet.
I am inclined to agree with Bengt Axel, that is is most likely a Mors.
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Manuel
Joined: 07 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 9:52 am Post subject: Mors |
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So what is the car behind the Mors?
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roverdriver
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| Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:06 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | So what is the car behind the Mors? |
Not enough of it visible for me to identify, but I might guess at a Clyno.
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Rick
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| Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:11 am Post subject: |
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Hi all,
Anyone feeling brave enough to have a go at identifying this one???? 
RJ
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| Rick wrote: | Hi all,
Anyone feeling brave enough to have a go at identifying this one????
RJ |
one suggestion made to me is that it could be an English-bodied Model T, the wheels certainly look familiar..
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| Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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or maybe this one, seen during WW2 with an ATS lassie busy in the foreground..
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roverdriver
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The body is definitely not standard Ford, but the wheels, as Rick points out look very Model T. It is curious that there are two spare wheels- this type of wheel was not demountable an the modern sense.
Mudguards look very T-ish but the mounting of the running board looks a little odd. There is no evidence of springs visible through the rear wheel, therefore springs must be transverse- so Model T again. The small amount visible of the crank-case/flywheel housing defy positive identification, but could well be T. Bonnet shape and construction suggest probably a brass radiator (pre 1917 ) model.
My guess would be an early T, possibly around 1913, with a later, non Ford body.
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Bengt Axel
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| The one behind the ATS 'lassie' (as you put it) is a Humber Pullman |
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Manuel
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| Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:05 pm Post subject: Louvres |
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It is interesting the car has no bonnet louvres/vents. Tho it may have a mascot.
Does that help to ID it?
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peterwpg
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| Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe the one close to the "ATS Lassie" is a Hillman Tilly. Some versions had larger headlights and didn't have openings on the side of the bonnet.
See Photo #8
http://hillman.tillyregister.com/classic.html |
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Rick
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| Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:46 am Post subject: |
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thanks for your thoughts everyone. Next is this MG pic, various parts of the car look non-standard, so what model is hiding behind those large lamps?
RJ
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mikeC
Joined: 31 Jul 2009
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| Rick wrote: | thanks for your thoughts everyone. Next is this MG pic, various parts of the car look non-standard, so what model is hiding behind those large lamps?
RJ |
I reckon this started life as an M-Type -the wheels are bolt-on Morris Minor type, and the UW registration dates from 1929 |
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