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heathelect
Joined: 30 Nov 2008 Posts: 85
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 9:45 pm Post subject: welding - Ford Consul Capri |
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just purchased a consul capri, needs lots of welding, can anyone recommend a good cheap easy to use mig welder, pics to follow |
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buzzy bee
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 3382 Location: South Cheshire
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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Hi
Buy one that uses big bottles, and replaceable lances, euro fitting. Don't go gassless either! We have miller, not the greates, but we do hammer ours!
Be prepared to spend abit more than you think, you will not regret it long term.
Cheers
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heathelect
Joined: 30 Nov 2008 Posts: 85
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 10:02 pm Post subject: pics of my consul capri |
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this is what it should look like !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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heathelect
Joined: 30 Nov 2008 Posts: 85
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 10:03 pm Post subject: welder |
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thanks buzzy bee will bear that in mind when i buy |
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Richard H
Joined: 03 Apr 2009 Posts: 2148 Location: Lincolnshire, UK
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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Rotten like only a Ford can be!
SIP's range of welders seem good in my experience, and very affordable too. My dad bought a HandyMig Migmate new in 1995 and it's still going strong! _________________ Richard Hughes
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heathelect
Joined: 30 Nov 2008 Posts: 85
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 10:06 pm Post subject: welding |
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The gas ones seem the way too go !!! |
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Salopian
Joined: 05 Jan 2010 Posts: 354 Location: Newport Shropshire
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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Richard H wrote: | Rotten just like a Ford can be!
SIP's range of welders seem good in my experience, and very affordable too. My dad bought a HandyMig Migmate new in 1995 and it's still going strong! |
Actually does not look any worse than my sons 9 year old Transit! The chassis on that has already had the welders touch.
Anyway I have a had SIP for some years - its been fine. Although I've an account with BOC used for my oxy acetylene bottles I use the throwaway bottles for the Mig as I don't use it overmuch and it is with clean metal surprising how much you can do with on one. Shop around for them - prices vary quite some. _________________ Jonathan Butler
Alvis SD 12/50 1928 MG TD 1950 |
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michael1703
Joined: 22 Jul 2009 Posts: 349 Location: suffolk
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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something up to 130-150 amp for thicker bits
sealey/clarke,sip if you find the right one.
if you want to push the budget to £250-£400 (ebay 2nd hand)a good sheet metal mig is a migatronic rally 166, lincoln 185,murex tradesmig,esab
avoid maypole/wolf
you want a nice quality wire feed, avoid the ones where there are no braces between rollers and the tensioner is a bit of bent metal
one big thing too... find out the machines minimum ampage, some are 40 amp on their lowest setting, others go as low as 30amp, more expensive go down to 20amp
avoid gasless
dont be tempted to use co2 or pub gas
get a medium sized argoshield from boc, £47 from memory, the disposable bottles are about a tenner and last for approx ten minutes worth of welding
for a home restoration you might get a years worth of work from a medium sized boc bottle
try http://www.mig-welding.co.uk/forum/index.php for more info, its a very helpful forum |
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buzzy bee
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 3382 Location: South Cheshire
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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Hi
I think ours are about 300amp and the smaller ones about 200. The 300 amp won't go much less than 40amp, but the duty cycle is good, and only cuts out after runs of about 10 minutes long. (By which time the gun is getting warm, and so is my hand! hehe
Also alot of the smaller welders use 0.6mm wire, I would try to get it 0.8mm as this will be more usefull all round, for chassis/heavier and body, but that is just my oppinion. Then again I work on tractors and fabrication agricultural machinery, so I may be biased towards heavier kit.
To finish off the tidy welding, buy a auto darkening helmet, so you have both hands free, one for holding, one for the gun. I use speedglas, but you can find them on ebay.
The car looks good, with a bit of welding, and finishing work it will be better than the one you showed by the sea! Keep us posted!
Cheers
Dave |
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victor 101
Joined: 03 Apr 2009 Posts: 446 Location: East Yorkshire
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Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 7:15 am Post subject: |
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Had one of these about 30 years ago, a real head turner, look forward to following your progress reports. |
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Nic Jarman
Joined: 05 Oct 2008 Posts: 1031 Location: Stoke by Clare, Suffolk
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Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 10:31 am Post subject: |
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I bought a SIP and could not get it to weld properly so I asked an expert welder to have a go and he could not use it either. I have got an old Cebora pocket MIG, new sleeve gas and wire, Bobs your uncle. _________________ 1936 Morris 8 Series 1
1973 MGB roadster
1977 MG Midget 1500
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Kelsham
Joined: 18 Jan 2009 Posts: 349 Location: Llandrindod Wells Powys
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Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:10 pm Post subject: capri welding |
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I think you should google for the weldequipe site, they dont rate SIP and recommend clarke for hobby welders.
They have tutorials that you can watch. I have learnt a lot from them. My Sip always had erratic wire feed problems.
My replacement Clarke welds smoothly. Buy at least a 130 amp machine.
If you want to make a career out of welding they advise the purchase of a Portamig.
Regards Kels. |
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michael1703
Joined: 22 Jul 2009 Posts: 349 Location: suffolk
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Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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ive bought a new portamig 215 last year, its not actually the best welder for 20 gauge.
its good on 0.8 reels but not as good on 0.6
migatronic and lincoln are better than portamig for light stuff
the 215 goes as low as 20 amp
i used to weld all day long with a migatronic on thin sheet for extraction hoods and control boxes etc, the machine had 6.5 years worth of 50 hours a week without trouble when i left that job, presumably still going strong |
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