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1956 Ford Thames
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Rick
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:10 am    Post subject: Re: Hydraulic Brakes Reply with quote

Bazz57 wrote:
Hi Rick, do you know anyone that has put hydraulic brakes on a Ford Thames, I am wanting to put hydraulic brakes on my truck. Bazz


I don't know of anyone who has done it with the existing axles, only when they have been chopped about and modern running gear fitted underneath them.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Can I ask why you want to put hydraulic brakes on her? Hydraulic brakes are a nightmare! lol For the speed the truck will go, suposing you keep the engine standard, the drums are large, and more than capable of stopping you on the rods and cables if in good condition and set correctly.

Can you tell I hate hydraulic brakes!

Cheers

Dave
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

buzzy bee wrote:
Hi

Can I ask why you want to put hydraulic brakes on her? Hydraulic brakes are a nightmare! lol For the speed the truck will go, suposing you keep the engine standard, the drums are large, and more than capable of stopping you on the rods and cables if in good condition and set correctly.

Can you tell I hate hydraulic brakes!

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I must say I'm not keen on them either on infrequently-used vehicles, give me (properly set up) rods and cables any day on slow vehicles such as E83Ws and the like.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:03 pm    Post subject: Ford Thames Reply with quote

Thanks Mog for your reply, gives me a lot to think about, what part of Aus are you from. Cheers Baz
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:28 pm    Post subject: Ford Thames Reply with quote

Thanks guys for the information rgarding the hydraulic brakes, will keep it original. Bazz
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Bazz, I have lived in Dee Why, Sydney for the last 30 odd years. When I was a teenager in the U.K. , I had a number of Morgan 3 wheelers. Some of the early ones had what we called " Cocoa tin brakes " on the front wheels, when you pulled the hand brake on you could see the drum distort . Another handy feature was the heads of the spokes were inside the drum. When one broke , you got some very nice grooves in the drum ! This story is true. I entered a club sprint near Coventry, so it was about 30 odd miles from home . When I got there , I found that one spoke had broken, so I took the wheel off and removed the head . [ a few more grooves ] Also removed the broken spoke, no worries ! What's the problem ? One or two spokes missing ! Yes, they did pass it to run. In those days the sump plug was not wired and the total loss oil went on the ground. I only had a beat up S.V. JAP on the front that I paid 3 quid for, the OHV was being rebuilt. It was a half mile sprint and I came 4 th. out of 9 so I was pretty pleased with my effort. I was never happy about people racing old Morgan 3 wheelers in those days as parts were so hard to come by.

I agree with Rick, if you have good drums ,linings , rods or cables the brakes will work very well. I have locked up brakes using these settings.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did have a Raleigh moped that was very , very , hard to stop. They had a little brake drum on the back wheel. So I made a brake arm that was about 1 inch longer, this improved the stopping power.
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