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It`s that time again.. Bertie`s MoT..
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bertie



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Location: Coventry, West Midlands.

PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 4:31 pm    Post subject: It`s that time again.. Bertie`s MoT.. Reply with quote

MoT time comes round all too fast, doesn`t it? Shocked I found to my surprise that it was due up sunday Surprised , so a call to P A T in Coventry to book it in today to see Jeff - owner, proprietor and MoT tester Very Happy . For once, it wasn`t raining and Judy ( Angiebaby on this site ) and I had an uneventful journey there, no queue so we drove onto the ramp. Jeff took Bertie`s details, logged him on, went through the lights etc and up in the air the green machine went...





All is in very good condition underneath, heavily undersealed and the wooden floorboards are very solid. There is very slight lift in the front nearside trunnion but pretty negligible



Jeff was happy with everything so far, so down to earth Bertie went, then onto the brakes. I had some doubt about 54 year old cable and rod brakes meeting today`s standard, last year it went through on a gauge placed inside the car measuring the stopping force on the road. Jeff put Bertie on the rolling road this time, and lo and behold it just scraped through!



The test now over as exhaust emissions are visual only for a chariot of this age, so I drove him out the other side and back round to the front of P A T . Details entered, and soon the new certificate was issued.. and what a cheap and nasty certificate it is! Gone are the green A4 certificates as they`ve been replaced by the receipt style characterless black and white effort..



So, after a goodbye and thanks to Jeff, we headed off, back to Allesley where he is garaged, and the rain gently fell..



It`s going to be a busy time for Bertie in the next week, weather provided, The Butty Run tomorrow, the kitcar show at Stoneleigh if we can make it and The Griff on tuesday evening.. A good day indeed, thanks for reading..



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gillberry



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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congratulations our Gracie sailed through her on Wednesday as well
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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nice one,. my wifes series v hillman minx passed last week too. Very Happy
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john-saab



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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent news. My SAAB V4 passed on Friday..walked out with no advisories and a mile wide smile!
Do you know the name/code of the colour on your car?
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bertie



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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi John, I think he`s canterbury green, aka post office van green I`ve been told Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got an MOT on my P5b the other day,no advisories and the guy was impressed by the power of forty odd year old brakes.
The wipers being lfted clear of the screen when parked had him head scratching for a few seconds though.
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bertie



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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bet it did! My Dad was an avid collector of the P4 "Auntie" Rovers, 5 in all.. one is still alive, the Rover 80, four cylinder and underpowered considering its weight of 2 tons Laughing .. That had the `wipers lift` too but only to clear the wipers of the chrome surround on the windscreen when switching them off or switching on. Like the lovely P5`s, when Rovers were Rovers.. Crying or Very sad
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alan 869



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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fantastic, well done. What a crummy MOT cert. You´d think there would be a box marked -Year of manufacture- Embarassed What year is it? Fantastic renovation. A lovely 40-50s Green. The same colour was used for the interior of the first model of Volvo PV 444 that came out 47. The first one was shown to the public in 1944. The swedes call the inteior -Kitchen- interior because of that lovely pastel green colour

One of the few benifits of living over here are the rules for old cars. MOT every other year for vehicles 30 years or older. Vehicles 1950 or older, no MOT at all. No road tax for everything over 30 years old. My Volvo PV from 1956 is in such good nick that the MOT blokes just smile when it comes in and they give it just a quick look over (apart from the brakes of course - which I always strip down and clean up before going Wink )
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Mog



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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To get a "Pink slip " that is MOT, I only have to turn up with the rego. papers and mileage. I have a good mechanic mate. The brake test is done in the office. He knows my cars, and does it for a few other people. Cost $30.
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MikeEdwards



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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wish mine would sail through, and if it fails, fail on something that's easy to fix. This year I had to tweak the idle mixture to richen it up before it would pass, and that's quite hard to check before going to the test - I can make sure the lights work, and that the floor isn't hanging out, but emissions are a pain.
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peter scott



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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Mike,

These things work..

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/gunsons-gas-tester-mk2-/290709622157?pt=UK_Diagnostic_Tools_Equipment&hash=item43afa4cd8d

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Julian



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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MikeEdwards wrote:
This year I had to tweak the idle mixture to richen it up before it would pass, and that's quite hard to check before going to the test - .


How does that work I wonder? You can't fail with too lean a mixture, they only stipulate maximum CO readings for older vehicles - unless it's so lean that the unburned HC's go out of limits. But that would make for an engine that idles badly....

Julian.
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Julian wrote:
How does that work I wonder? You can't fail with too lean a mixture, they only stipulate maximum CO readings for older vehicles - unless it's so lean that the unburned HC's go out of limits. But that would make for an engine that idles badly....

Julian.


Yes, I think that was it - excessive HCs due to being too lean. It doesn't idle that smoothly, but then it never has and I've always put it down to big carbs and a lumpy cam. (I was about to add "and being old", then realised that compared to most on here it's actually quite new.)

I came away from the scrape-through with intentions of biting the bullet and getting it all set up properly, correct jets and chokes and so on, and to date have done precisely nothing.
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Julian



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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MikeEdwards wrote:
I've always put it down to big carbs and a lumpy cam. (I was about to add "and being old", then realised that compared to most on here it's actually quite new.)

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I had similar problems regarding lumpy cams etc with a much modified engine.

I'm making some assumption here regarding your vehicle, but a very worthwhile improvement is to connect the dizzy vacuum advance to constant vacuum. (if the carb has no provision for this then go off the manifold) You'll find the extra advance at idle helps clean up the emissions no end and also gives smoother running. If your ignition system is up to it then opening up the plug gaps to 30 thou helps too.

Julian.
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MikeEdwards



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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting, I will have a go with that. The vacuum advance is not connected at al, I'd always been under the impression that when Dellorto carbs (or Webers, presumably) are fitted, the vacuum should be disconnected and in fact I've recently changed the manifold take-off to one that just has a connection for the brake servo rather than also having an advance pipe that I have to block off.

Plug gaps are already 30 thou, that's standard gap on them according to Haynes.
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