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1stpop
Joined: 03 Dec 2007 Posts: 109
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:09 pm Post subject: Morris 8 Series E Piston Rings |
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Having consulted my workshop book and started on replacing the piston rings I have hit a snag.... two pistons are marked wellworthy 502.136 +030 and the other two are marked 11580 30thous o/s. Can anybody give me any clue as to the correct piston ring size? none of the ones listed in my book are stamped on the pistons |
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1stpop
Joined: 03 Dec 2007 Posts: 109
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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Just cleaned the bottom of the crank case and spotted the following:
A +2 +4 +3 +2
I presume this is the re-bore sizing? Can you get mixed piston ring sizes? |
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ukdave2002
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 4104 Location: South Cheshire
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:28 pm Post subject: Re: Morris 8 Series E Piston Rings |
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1stpop wrote: | Having consulted my workshop book and started on replacing the piston rings I have hit a snag.... two pistons are marked wellworthy 502.136 +030 and the other two are marked 11580 30thous o/s. Can anybody give me any clue as to the correct piston ring size? none of the ones listed in my book are stamped on the pistons |
Ok all 4 pistons appear to be +30 thou, thru the period of the 8's life ,Morris did a great job of mixing metric and imperial measurements ! Mainly due to the acquisition of Hodgekis the French engine manufacturer.
The bores are 57mm as standard, but re-bores are in 10" incriments If you need them I'm pretty sure I have a set of +30" Wellworthy oil saving rings?.
Cheers
Dave |
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1stpop
Joined: 03 Dec 2007 Posts: 109
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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am I correct in thinking they have been re-bored? and thats what the +2 +4 and +3 mean? |
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Handyman
Joined: 09 Aug 2011 Posts: 44 Location: Up in't clouds in Sunny Sussex.
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 11:11 am Post subject: |
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No, these numbers have no reference to reboring. Whereabouts were they in the crankcases? Look more like running clearances for the mains or big-ends.
On your pistons, two are Wellworthy and two are Hepolite, but they are all plus 0.30", so the engine has probably been rebored two or three times.
I am not sure Wellworthy piston rings will fit into the Hepolite pistons, but I stand to be corrected or I'll check my piston service books and post again.
H |
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peter scott
Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 7118 Location: Edinburgh
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 11:33 am Post subject: |
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The 11580 pistons have two rings of 2.22 mm width and two at 4 mm.
There appears to be 5 different Wellworthy pistons for the Series E.
There are ones with 3 rings which are two at 2.25 mm width and one at 3.00 mm.
There are also 4 ring pistons like the 11580 and they are stated as two at 2.25 mm and two at 4.00 mm.
There is also a few varieties of radial depth for the various Wellworthy pistons.
Rather than seeking rings for your existing pistons would you not be better looking for a set of four pistons with rings. At least you would have a better chance of obtaining reasonable balance.
Peter _________________ http://www.nostalgiatech.co.uk
1939 SS Jaguar 2 1/2 litre saloon |
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