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1934 Austin 10/4
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pigtin



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Starting handle... you mean that 'Z' shaped thing with the brass handle?
I'd been using it for that purpose for years, also for added leverage to the wheelbrace. Then someone showed me an aperture at the bottom of the radiator... and you'll never guess....

Don Wink
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peter scott



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah! That's the thing. The "Z" hammer. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

I need to make a new "Z" thingy for the ford, as it is somehosw much to short, fowling on the bumper, as it is too short, must be for a saloon or something!

Anyway not that hard to make! Laughing

I better have one, as I am planning on using the handle all of the time! Wink

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Dave
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

buzzy bee wrote:
I better have one, as I am planning on using the handle all of the time! Wink


just do it right otherwise you'll break your thumb Wink

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

He he, yeah I know all baout that with my petter engine, have had some near misses and that thing will break your wrist!

The compression is so hard, you have to really press into it, with both hands!

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pigtin



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah! Happy days. when I tried to swing my Austin eight back in '58 it kicked back and hurt my wrist...half an hour later I tried again. This time if fired: and the alligator bonnet came down on the other wrist... It just wasn't my day.

Don.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was a gent at the show yesterday with a 10/4 saloon, and we had a little chat. He told me that the 10/4 (chrome rad) was available in both narrow and wide body form, something I'd not heard of before.

I'd always thought that the chrome rad Ten was built 1932-34 but he was telling me that because mine is a '34, it must be a (later) Lichfield. I suggested that perhaps the Lichfield came out late in '34 after my chrome rad had been built, but he was having none of it. He also said that as my cabriolet had a boot, again it had to be a Lichfield. The chrome rad cabrios came with a boot, unlike the saloons, but by this time I'd given up arguing my point.

I had a read of some literature last night about the 10/4, a look on wikipedia suggests that the 10/4 switched from 6v to 12v during 1934 - is this right too? I thought 10/4s and the later Lichfield were both 6v-ers, so I'd be interested to know if/when the Ten did switch to 12v.

ta

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Penman



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi
I am pretty sure that the 1934, wide body, narrow rear wing, open spare wheel with folding luggage grid, 10/4 which I learned to drive in had 2 6v batteries with a bridging strap between terminals.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now that is interesting! I'd noticed under the bonnet of my 10/4, in the battery compartment, that there are two disconnected and gnarled old cables which may have been used to join up 2x 6v batteries. I'd assumed it was some cobble up from the dim and distant, but perhaps it is correct..I guess the acid test is to look for any identifications (6/12) on the regulator (the coil thats on there may not be the original).

Looking at this fella's (wide body) saloon, less of the width of the rear wing seemed to be visible than on my cabrio, which makes me wonder if mine has a narrow body. The cabrio doesn't have a luggage rack, and mine looks the same as others I've seen pics of so I'm sure its correct.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as I know the narrow bodied 10 was only made in 1932 and was the first of the 10/4s. It can be recognized by different wheels (similar to the A7) a slightly differently shaped rear wings and (I believe) a ladder type chassis. I understood that all of the chrome rad tens were 10/4s
and the later ones, Litchfield etc' had painted rad cowls.
Interesting about the two 6v batteries, there is room on a 10/4 compartment for two (connected in parallel because they were all 6v.) But why! Confused
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi
With a 2 battery set up it would have been possible to either have a 12v system(series connection) or a heavy duty(more amps) 6v system(Parallel connection)

Incidently is the chrome rad you are talking about like the one in Rick's avatar, because that is what our 10/4 had.

Just had a thought, if anyone has a copy of Pitman's "The Book Of The Austin Ten" that should have an answer.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi again
Just had a look at the photos on the main site.
AOG75? is a wide body and CS2604 is a narrow body.

If Rick can insert the pics here you can see the difference to compare.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, narrow body saloon as referred to by Penman:


I couldn't find the other pic you referred to.

Is mine a narrow or wide body? registered June 34 fyi



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's only 30 days in June, Rick.. Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Pitman book is not accurate regarding the differences between the 1932 "narrow" body and the following years "Wide" body. The two photos above show cars with post-1932 wheels and I would assume they are wide body.
I will try to find a photo of the early car, I have one somewhere.
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