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1934 Austin 10/4
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Rick
Those are both Narrow bodies, compare the width of the tops of the rear wings with the other one.

http://www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/photos-cars3/austin__10-4_79.htm


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Penman, so it seems that wide and narrow bodied cars were built throughout production, interesting stuff. I'd noticed that this guy's car at the show had less of the rear wing visible, compared to mine, so I was on the right tracks!

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, yer live and learn. After running a 10/4 for 23 years I was always under the impression that only the early 10/4s with the ladder chassis were narrow bodied, someone must have told me that.
Going through my Pitman manual I can find no reference to body width, only to the chassis being cross-braced in June 33.
My immediate thoughts were: why go to the expense of tooling for two different widths of body, why not plump for the wider one? Possibly the answer is in the method of construction, there being the two sides and a fairly simple centre section that would not entail too much tooling to have a wider alternative, these are soldered to the two outer shell pressings.

Couldn't be that only the rear wings are narrower and the bodies remain the same? Just a thought, it must be documented somewhere. Confused
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is the 1933 10/4 wide body from the show at the weekend, for comparison




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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking at that; it does appear that I have a narrow bodied car. Having just remembered who told me much of what I know about 10/4s I'll pop in and see if he has anything documented.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi
pigtin wrote:
Well, yer live and learn. After running a 10/4 for 23 years I was always under the impression that only the early 10/4s with the ladder chassis were narrow bodied, someone must have told me that.
Going through my Pitman manual I can find no reference to body width, only to the chassis being cross-braced in June 33.
My immediate thoughts were: why go to the expense of tooling for two different widths of body, why not plump for the wider one? Possibly the answer is in the method of construction, there being the two sides and a fairly simple centre section that would not entail too much tooling to have a wider alternative, these are soldered to the two outer shell pressings.

Couldn't be that only the rear wings are narrower and the bodies remain the same? Just a thought, it must be documented somewhere. Confused


Perhaps it will only be possible to resolve this properly by actually having 2 different saloons next to each other in order to compare such things as the amount of overhang the rear wings have over the rear wheels, the internal width at for instance the A post, the B post and behind the rear doors, and to also check if they have the same chassis setup.

With the Cabriolet and Convertible they may not have made enough to warrant having 2 different width bodies.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pigtin wrote:


Hi Pigtin, I was flicking through some old copies of The Automobile (1988 to be precise), and what should feature on a show review page, but a certain 10/4 saloon! Smile

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Rick,

Yes, that was at Sellindge. Used to be one of the best shows in Kent.
It also appears at the Great Dorset on Fred Dibnah's 'Steam up' video.
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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2009 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found out today that this year's ATDC rally is being held just down the road from me, in July. Any of the 10 owners on here planning to attend?? (eg AustinAnnie, pigtin?)

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well the ATDC national rally took place over the weekend at a local rugby ground. We went along on the Saturday, and although some cars were out on a run, there were still plenty of 30s Austins to ogle at..




























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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

I never got there for one reason or another!

I like the tent on the back of the automobile engineers truck!

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