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colwyn500
Joined: 21 Oct 2012
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Location: Nairn, Scotland
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Ian, your car looks beautiful. It was the treat of being driven in a blue 1938 Morris 8 from Peterborough to York in around 1980 and the enthusiasm, (bordering on obsession) of its owner Kevin, that first got me interested in pre-war cars.
morriss8a by peterthompson, on Flickr
It was the very interesting and witty way that you wrote of your efforts with your Morris that first drew me to this Forum.
Please treat us to more of your musings; I really enjoy your prose. |
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alec.elliot
Joined: 28 Feb 2012
Posts: 58
Location: Worcestershire
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Hi Ian
Looks a really smart job. Mine is currently Black over Sky Blue and seeing yours is giving me itchy hands to get mine painted in the Royal Blue I have in the garage but I guess its just too cold at the moment!
All the best
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welder
Joined: 26 Nov 2007
Posts: 265
Location: North Warwickshire
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| Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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| colwyn500 wrote: | Ian, your car looks beautiful. It was the treat of being driven in a blue 1938 Morris 8 from Peterborough to York in around 1980 and the enthusiasm, (bordering on obsession) of its owner Kevin, that first got me interested in pre-war cars.
morriss8a by peterthompson, on Flickr
It was the very interesting and witty way that you wrote of your efforts with your Morris that first drew me to this Forum.
Please treat us to more of your musings; I really enjoy your prose. |
Blimey! I'm really flattered that the rantings of a pillock such as I should be a source of amusement for people I've never met. I almost used the word "strangers" but I find this cracking forum to be a sort of community, a gathering of like minded car nuts....friends, even.
I shall continue to frequent this site, asking questions and offering observations as there are still several minor issues with Old Morris which need attention. I have learned to rely heavily upon the knowledge and experience of it's members and we can usually have a laugh, something that's high on my priorities list.
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welder
Joined: 26 Nov 2007
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Location: North Warwickshire
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I've mentioned before that Old Morris isn't charging and steadfastly refuses to do so despite my best efforts. I'd considered converting to 12 volts and fitting an alternator but this would mean changing lots of stuff that I'd rather not.
I've found a company in the USA that manufacture 6 volt alternators, shipped and delivered to my door for £106-00, all in. It would involve the manufacture of suitable bracketry but this is definately something I'd be confident in doing.
The alternator comes complete with pulley, fan etc and is single wire, voltage regulating so should be ideal. I know it's not original but would enable me to use the car without worrying about the batteries (2x6 volts ones wired in parallel) going flat.
Has anyone any experience of this sort of conversion, please?
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ukdave2002
Joined: 23 Nov 2007
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Location: South Cheshire
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| Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Ian
Unless you plan to do a lot of night driving, the original 6v system is fine. If you want to convert to an alternator, it would be quite easy to convert a 12v unit to 6v.
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Bitumen Boy
Joined: 26 Jan 2012
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Location: Above the snow line in old Monmouthshire
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| Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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| welder wrote: |
I've found a company in the USA that manufacture 6 volt alternators, shipped and delivered to my door for £106-00, all in. |
If I'm right in reading that as one hundred and six pounds then a slight knowledge of transatlantic postage rates, and the fact that an alternator isn't going to be very light, suggests that this price might well be a bit too good to be true, especially as I imagine a 6v alternator is going to be a fairly specialised bit of kit. My advice would be to check them out THOROUGHLY before laying out any money. |
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ukdave2002
Joined: 23 Nov 2007
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Location: South Cheshire
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| Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Don't forget C&E will charge vat + import duty😞 |
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Bitumen Boy
Joined: 26 Jan 2012
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Location: Above the snow line in old Monmouthshire
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| Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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| ukdave2002 wrote: | | Don't forget C&E will charge vat + import duty😞 |
That's a good point. If you really want to go for an alternator conversion then probably a lot less hassle to get one from a UK supplier and change to 12v at the same time - otherwise keep it standard and track down that charging problem  |
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welder
Joined: 26 Nov 2007
Posts: 265
Location: North Warwickshire
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| Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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| ukdave2002 wrote: | Hi Ian
Unless you plan to do a lot of night driving, the original 6v system is fine. If you want to convert to an alternator, it would be quite easy to convert a 12v unit to 6v.
Dave |
Dave, how would I go about changing a 12v alternator to 6v operation, please? Sounds like the sort of solution I'd like.
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British heritage cars
Joined: 10 Nov 2010
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She (or he) realy looks gorgous!  Nice job! |
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welder
Joined: 26 Nov 2007
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Location: North Warwickshire
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| British heritage cars wrote: | | She (or he) realy looks gorgous! Nice job! |
Thank you. I still struggle to believe what can be achieved whilst under duress. 
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ukdave2002
Joined: 23 Nov 2007
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Location: South Cheshire
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| welder wrote: | | ukdave2002 wrote: | Hi Ian
Unless you plan to do a lot of night driving, the original 6v system is fine. If you want to convert to an alternator, it would be quite easy to convert a 12v unit to 6v.
Dave |
Dave, how would I go about changing a 12v alternator to 6v operation, please? Sounds like the sort of solution I'd like.
Ian |
Hi Ian
Below a very simple circuit, that would take the 12v alternator output and regulate at whatever you want (alter components to change voltage) set to 7.5v I would think would be about right, total cost of those components would be less than £2, and about 5 min to solder together. Its a 2N3055 power transistor, zener diode and a resistor, Maplin would stock them. It would be good for about 15A, thats fine for a Morris 8, if you used 2 transistors in parallel, ie a 30A output you could put some proper lights on!!
Cheers
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welder
Joined: 26 Nov 2007
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Location: North Warwickshire
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| ukdave2002 wrote: | | welder wrote: | | ukdave2002 wrote: | Hi Ian
Unless you plan to do a lot of night driving, the original 6v system is fine. If you want to convert to an alternator, it would be quite easy to convert a 12v unit to 6v.
Dave |
Dave, how would I go about changing a 12v alternator to 6v operation, please? Sounds like the sort of solution I'd like.
Ian |
Hi Ian
Below a very simple circuit, that would take the 12v alternator output and regulate at whatever you want (alter components to change voltage) set to 7.5v I would think would be about right, total cost of those components would be less than £2, and about 5 min to solder together. Its a 2N3055 power transistor, zener diode and a resistor, Maplin would stock them. It would be good for about 15A, thats fine for a Morris 8, if you used 2 transistors in parallel, ie a 30A output you could put some proper lights on!!
Cheers
Dave |
Dave, thank you. I think.
A good friend of mine is an electronics engineer, I'll print off your diagram and show it to him. To my eye it may well be in Swahili.
I'm only a rough welder. 
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welder
Joined: 26 Nov 2007
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Location: North Warwickshire
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Well, I went with the 6 volt alternator from Kansas, USA in the end. It arrived yesterday and is a thing of wonderment and great beauty. To me, anyway.
Ukdave was quite right in that Customs and Excise would want some money from me. £27-12 to be precise, so It's cost me £133-12 in total. I find this entirely reasonable for a custom built 6v alternator, delivered from Kansas to my front door, with warranty.
Just got to fabricate suitable mounting bracketry and get it all fitted. Thank goodness that the weather finally shows signs of springtime, my garage has, until recently, resembled a cold-store.
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welder
Joined: 26 Nov 2007
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Location: North Warwickshire
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Well, it took me a while to find the time but the alternator from Kansas is now fitted and working a treat! The batteries, still linked as one, are fully charged within nanoseconds and the semaphore signal thingies positively leap into action when called upon to do so.
I may possibly paint the alternator green to match some of it's surroundings. It looks too new. Hey......
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