Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 11732 Location: S. Cheshire
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:09 am Post subject:
I tried C-C in my Austin 7's engine - no joy so far. I think I have some stuck valves, but with the head off its tricky to leave a reservoir of C-C over them, to soak down inside and do the job.
RJ _________________ Rick (Admin. oldclassiccar.co.uk)
Various 1930s-1960s relics - Austin, Morris, Bedford, Dodge etc.
Joined: 18 Jan 2009 Posts: 303 Location: Llandrindod Wells Powys
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:52 am Post subject: cola in engines
I have no idea, but bear in mind it is sometimes used to remove rust.
I recall visiting the factory years ago. A young man who worked there told me he had stopped drinking it after seeing its effect on metal.
I would personally want to strip any engine I used it on after it freed up. I think it would be likely to have an etching effect on metal surfaces.
In the past I have used heated oil, or diesel poured into the bores of seized engines. This worked for me.
If I had seized valve gear I would start with Plus Gas and apply it regularly.
If this failed after a week. I would apply heat with a blow lamp.
Then apply more Plus Gas. Gentle tapping of the stems might help.
Joined: 28 Aug 2008 Posts: 378 Location: Northern MA, USA
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:08 am Post subject:
You know I'm the #1 PlusGas fan!
Because in my mind it's a pure penetrant & nothing else. It eventually evaporates & leaves no discernable residue. Keep in mind it's highly flammable so I'd be cautious about using a blow torch.
One other trick, that I've only used once in desperation, is to use an impact wrench on the crankshaft nut. Set the torque as LOW as possible initially because the vibration will do as much as the twisting motion to get the fluid penetrating.
I suppose Guiness will be next - it reaches places other beers can't, doesn't it? _________________ Mike
Jens, put up a photo of the item you have and I'll pass it to my pal Frank who I mentioned. He's something of a petrol head too so would be pleased to help if he can.
Joined: 28 Aug 2008 Posts: 378 Location: Northern MA, USA
Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:15 am Post subject: PlusGas
You can get PlusGas from these folks in the UK - it used to be in every hardware or ironmongers shop, even Halfords, but seems to have fallen out of favour. Don't bother with the aerosol version.
KROIL also works well, our restoration shop in the USA uses it a lot - avoid the SILicone version which leaves a film that's hard to remove.
PB-Blaster is another option & also good.
These last two are penetrating oils - PlusGas is like very runny water! _________________ Mike
will wait to see if a single Hardy joint turn up ?
dont want to blow too much money, before I know the condition of the engine ? _________________ http://www.eurods.eu/wp/index.html
Ohh and the gearbox has driveshaft couplings, that share first name with one part, of a VERY famues American comedy couple
Jens Christian[/quote]
Laurel and Hardy? Hardy-Spicer? What, for goodness sake? I need to sleep nights!
The remnants of the once mighty Hardy Spicer is about 3 miles from where I sit, a great friend of mine carries out repairs/rebuilds/maintenance related to their heat treatment process equipment and may, possibly, have access to otherwise unobtainable stuff.
Anything you need?
Ian[/quote]
Ah, Hardy Spicer. That's where I did my apprenticeship starting in 1958 in the new factory. When I drove past recently the 'new factory' has been demolished. The old part next door is still there and still making front wheel driveshafts, CV joints etc. There was a sign advertising building plots of 4 acres each. When built in 1958 it had the longest single span roof on a factory in Europe. It was huge. What has happened to our industry? _________________ Keep Torqueing,
Ah, Hardy Spicer. That's where I did my apprenticeship starting in 1958 in the new factory. When I drove past recently the 'new factory' has been demolished. The old part next door is still there and still making front wheel driveshafts, CV joints etc. There was a sign advertising building plots of 4 acres each. When built in 1958 it had the longest single span roof on a factory in Europe. It was huge. What has happened to our industry?
Yes what happened great shame, have a look inhere.
Note picture in 3rd post (InimiaD) that was a long time ago.
And the year my car was built
I once drove through Blackpool (I think it was?) there were a HUGE car plant there, that was shut down
think it was a former Vauxhall factory, really depressing to see how this had affected the town, great shame. _________________ http://www.eurods.eu/wp/index.html
Joined: 26 Nov 2007 Posts: 175 Location: North Warwickshire
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:24 pm Post subject:
It runs! The Old Morris runs for the first time in over 22 years and I'm like a kid on Christmas morning. Can't stop grinning although to tell the truth I haven't tried very hard.
About 2 hours ago the thing finally capitulated and was coaxed into life. Couldn't run it for long as the radiator is being re-cored by the entirely wonderful ReadyRads in Digbeth (£160-00 plus vat with a 3 year warranty) so no cooling but ran it long enough for me to be able to call my son and hold the phone by the engine. He lied and said that he'd known all along that I'd do it.
Following this call I did the only thing I could think of... I danced around the garden like a giggling pillock.
Latest eBay purchase arrived in today's post, a set of three flexible brake hoses. I'd already sourced overhaul seal kits for master and wheel cylinders so I'm now equipped to get the car stopping and my enthusiasm for the Morris is fired right back up
Got to go. Back to the garage to smile benignly at that old car.
Joined: 26 Nov 2007 Posts: 175 Location: North Warwickshire
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:34 pm Post subject:
Rick wrote:
MOT next week then eh! great news
R
Thanks Rick. MOT may be another week or two yet . Just got all the lights working though. Can't get my head around the strange dipping solenoid thingy in the offside headlamp so may well convert it to conventional twin-filament arrangement.
Can't wait to get the radiator back now, cos I want to move the car under it's own power. Really must change the engine oil, too. What is recommended for these cars?
It runs! The Old Morris runs for the first time in over 22 years and I'm like a kid on Christmas morning.
Can't stop grinning although to tell the truth I haven't tried very hard.
About 2 hours ago the thing finally capitulated and was coaxed into life.
I did the only thing I could think of... I danced around the garden like a giggling pillock.
Ian
Hi Ian, thats great news
its the best feeling ever, when some thing you repaird yourself, burst in life after many years of sleep
I had my mobile phone in the garage, when my project fired up, and recorded it
I was also over the moon about the whole thing,
so I can fully relate to the feeling you had
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any help would be welcomed 
great shame, have a look inhere.
. Just got all the lights working though. Can't get my head around the strange dipping solenoid thingy in the offside headlamp so may well convert it to conventional twin-filament arrangement.
