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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:39 pm    Post subject: Vacuum servo hose 3/4" ID Reply with quote

Does anyone know where I can find rubber hose to use with a vacuum servo braking system, 3/4" (19mm) inside diameter? I've spoken with Auto Hose in Stoke, they don't stock it but may be able to find some, but does anyone here know where I might find some?

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 2:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Vacuum servo hose 3/4" ID Reply with quote

Rick wrote:
Does anyone know where I can find rubber hose to use with a vacuum servo braking system, 3/4" (19mm) inside diameter? I've spoken with Auto Hose in Stoke, they don't stock it but may be able to find some, but does anyone here know where I might find some?

thanks, R


Can't help with suppliers Rick, but the hose MUST be vacuum hose, usually identified by a yellow stripe.
Sorry if I am teaching you to such eggs, but I have seen the wrong types of hose "sucked flat" by the vacuum. Not funny on a braking system.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 2:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Vacuum servo hose 3/4" ID Reply with quote

Rick wrote:
Does anyone know where I can find rubber hose to use with a vacuum servo braking system, 3/4" (19mm) inside diameter? I've spoken with Auto Hose in Stoke, they don't stock it but may be able to find some, but does anyone here know where I might find some?

thanks, R


Are you sure you want 3/4 ID? there's plenty of regular 1/2'' on ebay and WHY.

3/4'' ID.... are you coupling up the carriages to the Flying Scotsman Laughing

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 4:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Vacuum servo hose 3/4" ID Reply with quote

Julian wrote:
Rick wrote:
Does anyone know where I can find rubber hose to use with a vacuum servo braking system, 3/4" (19mm) inside diameter? I've spoken with Auto Hose in Stoke, they don't stock it but may be able to find some, but does anyone here know where I might find some?

thanks, R


Are you sure you want 3/4 ID? there's plenty of regular 1/2'' on ebay and WHY.

3/4'' ID.... are you coupling up the carriages to the Flying Scotsman Laughing

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Definitely 3/4" (19mm) ID I'm afraid Smile

And re your earlier reply, yes I've seen people use bog standard heater hose too.............................(not me)

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 5:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Vacuum servo hose 3/4" ID Reply with quote

Rick wrote:

And re your earlier reply, yes I've seen people use bog standard heater hose too.............................(not me)

RJ


Her, hum.... point of order Rick, it wasn't me that told you not to use heater hose as I'm not in the business of teaching grannies to suck eggs Smile

3/4'' ID vacuum hose is really beyond what I would suspect you'll find on any vehicle today. I'll have a look in my Manflex catalogue later for you as I suspect it's more likely to be found in an industrial application.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, found you some offerings from Manflex:

Oil resistant suction hose (711mm Hg at 20C) 3/4 ID ORS19-10 10metre £76.85 (it's blue)

Or Oil suction and delivery hose, (will do vacuum and 150psi) T6010/019X10 19mm ID 10 metres @ £190. It's black with a red trace.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the info Julian, I'll keep that on file if I can't find any shorter lengths. I only need about 70" in total of the 3/4 ID hose.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rick wrote:
Thanks for the info Julian, I'll keep that on file if I can't find any shorter lengths. I only need about 70" in total of the 3/4 ID hose.

RJ


Try Pirtek, they do hoses for coaches, trucks etc, etc
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rick wrote:
Thanks for the info Julian, I'll keep that on file if I can't find any shorter lengths. I only need about 70" in total of the 3/4 ID hose.

RJ


The only other solution I can think of, somewhat cheaper, is to use some regular hydraulic hose, with a steel braided reinforcement it'll not even notice vacuum. As has been suggested Pirtek will maybe cut you a length (or any hydraulic supplier)

I looked in the TCC (truck and trailer components) catalogue & the UC (universal components - same as TCC) catalogue and there was no vacuum hose @ 3/4ID. So I doubt that 3/4'' vacuum hose features in trucks and buses.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did wonder about re-inforced hydraulic hose being a suitable alternative, interesting.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:25 pm    Post subject: pirtek Reply with quote

I have had amazing service from the local Pertek. They seem to relish a challenge, i have gone in with two completely different sized pipes that can't be altered,but need to join together, and they have machined adaptors to fit. They have sorted me out with some very obscure fittings, off a 1960's industrial loco air system, an ancient aircraft fuel tank and a tail lift off an old truck. A bit of pipe for a servo shouldn't be a problem. Is there a branch near you Rick?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This probably belongs in the silly idea category but couldn't you use a hose with a spring inside it?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

baconsdozen wrote:
This probably belongs in the silly idea category but couldn't you use a hose with a spring inside it?


That may not be such a silly idea as a last resort..
On a couple of occasions I have done just that to successfuly prevent a hose kinking on a difficult run with bends when no custom hose was available. However, they were not vacuum situations.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I reckon that should work, remember the spring wouldn't have to work as a spring - a length of sufficiently heavy wire wound round a suitable former would do. Make sure the coils are close enough together and it should be sorted. Cheap, too! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can we ask why you need 6' of this hose? Would it be possible to use 5'11" of steel/brass/copper pipe & two small connecting pieces of hose?
Alternatively, try a railway restoration site (Severn Valley?), since rly. equipment often has a vacuum braking system.
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