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Jim.Walker
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SORRY! Made a mess of this!
Please remove. Jim
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Quote from my late Dad:- You only need a woman and a car and you have all the problems you
are ever likely to want". Computers had not been invented then!
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Jim.Walker
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Location: Chesterfield
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| Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Julian wrote: | | Jim.Walker wrote: | Nice photo Dave!
I would not mind betting though that the very tidy indicators are below regulation height. MOT problem?
The ones on my Avatar are barely high enough.
Jim. |
It maybe an SVA problem for kit cars, but it doesn't seem to be an MOT issue:
Note: The precise position of direction indicators is not part of the inspection, but check visually that the lamps are at about the same height and the same distance from each side of the vehicle.
Maybe I've missed something, it's easy to do!
Julian. |
You are probably right Julian. The MOT Regs. keep changing.
In the 1950s "bunny ear" indicators were often seen particularly on London Cabs mounted on the roof. The book I quoted measurements from was 1970s and Bunny ear indicatords seem to have disappeared from before that.
I also made an assumption that (without checking) that lamp positioning was testable because my Mot Tester in 1984 told me to move my front indicators to above the bumper.
Sorry, but I am getting old and do not make much effort these days to keep up to date with regulations.
Sorry to others about my mix up with the vehicles. But I did not know the van was a "Z". I never had anything to do with them and thought they were just Series E vans. I thought the older Morris (10?) must have a designation I did not know.
Jim. 
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Julian
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Location: Warrington
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| Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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Jim, this is by far and away the best link for MOT regulations, it's the pukka one and hasn't been barstardised and filled with inaccuracy like many other. Also you can find the bit you want in a jiffy:
http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual/contents.htm
Save it to desktop or favs.
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ukdave2002
Joined: 23 Nov 2007
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Location: South Cheshire
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| Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 10:40 am Post subject: |
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Bad vibration cured 
As Jim had predicted it was a UJ:
The needle rollers in the top bearing were just a pile of bits, job only took about an hour, so a good result
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Julian
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| Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 11:35 am Post subject: |
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| ukdave2002 wrote: | Bad vibration cured
As Jim had predicted it was a UJ:
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That's the result of far too much grease 
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Bitumen Boy
Joined: 26 Jan 2012
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Location: Above the snow line in old Monmouthshire
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| Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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It's amazing how knackered these things can be before you notice anything amiss...  |
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ukdave2002
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| Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Julian wrote: | That's the result of far too much grease
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I agree ...and do you know what; the new UJ was packed with grease so I cleaned it out with petrol before fitting, the only problem then was that the needle rollers wouldn't stay in place ( I suspect this is what the grease is for, just to make it easy for the factory to churn them out  )
Anyway a quick application of super glue and the needle rollers are now where they should be , to make matters worse who ever had made he UJ had added a grease nipple , this was obviously removed and the hole filled up with araldite 
Worryingly the UJ manufacturer had also not included any instructions  , had I not had the benefit of this forum I might have left the grease in, and continued greasing at regular intervals .
I hope others will learn form this post. 
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Roger-hatchy
Joined: 07 Dec 2007
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Location: Tiptree, Essex
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| Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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Greasy nipples, ain't that a topless restaurant attire  |
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Jim.Walker
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| Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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Dav, just before I re-polish my Halo (it got tarnished during my posts about indicator positions ). It is clear to see that the most worn leg on the spider is worn on the drive side. So that going forwards things will be out of line, But in reverse the joint would more or less centre itself and reduce or remove the vibrations. They often emit a characteristic "creak" at low speeds too.
That is one of the big clues in suspecting UJs.
Pleased you have sorted it!
Jim.
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MVPeters
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Location: Northern MA, USA
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| Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:08 am Post subject: |
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Dave
Forgive me, but I think you should have installed the UJ as supplied. Petrol & crazy glue are not lubricants, so I suggest you pick out the Araldite, fit the grease nipple & get some grease in there as soon as you can.
Those rollers need to roll a little bit, so I can't predict what effect the glue will have - I suspect the crazy glue isn't strong enough (metal-on-metal) to stand up to much force & will shear, so the chances are that the grease will eventually get to where it needs to be.
I'm not aware that it's possible to 'over-grease' a UJ.
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P3steve
Joined: 24 Nov 2007
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Location: Great Yarmouth, Norfolk
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| Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:55 am Post subject: |
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Got to say I agree with you on that MVPetes, all my time in the trade I cant recall a uj failing through being over greesed but plenty failing because people Skipped the service schedule and let them run dry I myself was guilty on that when as a young lad had a uj fail on a Dolly sprint which was bone dry.
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Kelsham
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| Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:17 am Post subject: |
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I have always greased any such bearings and never suffered problems. Some manufacturers fitted grease nipples to the shafts to encourage greasing.
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ukdave2002
Joined: 23 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:31 am Post subject: |
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I think I should have put a few more In my last post!!
I know I do some dumb things, but substituting lubricant with adhesive is not one of them.........yet
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Julian
Joined: 19 Apr 2010
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| Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:03 am Post subject: |
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| ukdave2002 wrote: | I think I should have put a few more In my last post!!
Dave |
Indeed, I'm struggling to determine if the subsequent replied are serious or not
People will probably Google ''UJ replacement'' for decades to come - find your post and start substituting grease with superglue!!!
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Roger-hatchy
Joined: 07 Dec 2007
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Location: Tiptree, Essex
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| Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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One question,
Do you have to prepack the grease nipples before you fit them. |
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