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Master cylinders - single circuit horizontal flange?
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jessejazza



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:16 pm    Post subject: Master cylinders - single circuit horizontal flange? Reply with quote

I am wondering if anyone knows of a stockist of the horizontal flanged master cylinders. I want to put one on my Rickman Ranger which has an Escort mk 2 pedal box. The Escort either had this type below, servoed single or dual circuit, or plain dual.

The distance between mounting holes is 82 mm... horizontal flanged ones were quite wide it seems. I found this one in a box Girling 646787288S12 and was wondering if anyone recognises it and knows what car it was fitted on possibly. It could of course have been an Escort one.



The vertical type are two-a-penny


I could get this one sleeved or fit a dual circuit one. I prefer this kind as I've found they have a longer life than dual ones (although folk would perhaps disagree!).

The closest I've come across is the Landrover Series 3 569339 but that is for a servo but is 82mm mounting holes. What's the difference - between a servo one and a single circuit non servo one?
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Jim.Walker



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as Classic cars are concerned I believe the only things needed to identify the Girling master cylinder you need are the bore size in fractions of an inch as marked on the cylinder barrel and that the (horizontal?) flange is at right angles to the bore on both axes. Some do have angled flanges.
If you have aremote servo there no differences, If the servo is combined with the servo there will be. Though I am not familiar with those.
Jim.
By the way. The one you illustrate may not be genuine Girling. It does not seem to have identifications on the barrel.
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jessejazza



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jim.Walker wrote:
...By the way. The one you illustrate may not be genuine Girling. It does not seem to have identifications on the barrel.

You mean the grey one - yes you're right it's TRW I think. I don't think even the Girling one's available today are actually the quality of the old Girling - all made in the Far east now whatever is printed on them.
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PAUL BEAUMONT



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Following the demise of the Lucas Group TRW have acquired the old Girling business, so your TRW m/c is a true descendent of the Girling parts.
In my Girling days they supplied such m/c's as clutch master cylinders for many applications.
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jessejazza



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trouble is these days it's trying to find decent quality parts. Since the demise of Lucas it's difficult to be sure of quality.

One of my reasons for considering a single circuit rather than dual (which is what the car had but pipes disgracefully placed and with incorrect fittings). Dual circuit MCs I have learnt can also be poor quality and hardly worth the extra expense.

I have found that single circuit MCs seem to last longer than dual circuit. Whether that's because they're aluminium I don't know. Only judge one can make on quality is 'one's eye'.
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michael1703



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2014 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

These guys know everything http://www.powertrackbrakes.co.uk/
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aps



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

this looks like a series 2 or early 3 landrover ,wayne
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