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Series 3 Land Rover 1981
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Dipster



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And that simplicity is what made them so popular in out of the way places. Compare that simplicity to today`s products and then ponder on why one sees so few modern versions in the same out of way places.......
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Common failing, that. If you're careful with an arc welder, you can mend it in place. Drill down into the ball, push the gearstick into the hole, then weld round bottom. The gearstick will be fractionally shorter, but that's barely noticeable.
I've done it few times. Easy job for after lunch!
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D4B



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got the remains of the gear lever out today:



Most of my time was spent cleaning thick layers of gear oil off everything,

Before:



After, although not quite finished yet:

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vitesse



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crumbs that virtually unrecognisable once all the crud has been removed Steve. I thought my engine and gearbox were dirty but that takes it to a whole different level.

I did see a site yesterday when I was googling around that sells a new gear lever for £15.

Tony
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D4B



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vitesse wrote:
I did see a site yesterday when I was googling around that sells a new gear lever for £15Tony


Thanks Tony,

Have got one on it's way hopefully, from Derbyshire, which is curious as that's where the Landy came from a couple of weeks back!

http://www.dls-uk.co.uk/series-3/gearbox/gear-lever-rhd-series-3.html

Cheers Steve
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D4B



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mainly because I ended up taking the floor out of the cab to deal with the broken gear lever, I carried on and removed the seat box...........



I never knew that aluminium could rot away like this wherever it comes into contact with steel:



Fuel tank under the drivers seat is perhaps not the greatest idea they had for safety in an accident Confused



More crud





Then I got to the real problems, how did this Landy get through it's last MOT with no advisories???



One repair plate had been glued on with car body sealant right next to the leaf spring mounting



This chassis has had it, cracked right through Crying or Very sad



Cheers, Steve; off to see what I can sell to raise some more resto funds
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ouch ! Is it a body off job?

If it's any consolidation I've just been replacing some of the fibreglass box sections and chassis reinforcement of my Z Van !







This is the fiberglass from just one corner Shocked



I'm not really complaining, it was probably done in the 60/70's whan these vans were worthless, if it hadn't of been repaired this way the van would probably have been scrapped Mad

Dave
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vitesse



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh well Steve better to find it now and sort it. I looks like you are going to have a busy Spring but that's why we buy these old cars because half the fun is restoring their dignity.

I always thought sitting on top of the petrol tank wasnt a good design idea, I doubt whether it would get through health and safety today. I don't know if it was just military ones but they had tanks under both seats.

Tony


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi
I was told that the origin of the underseat tank is military and that those vehicles actually had their filler caps under the seat as well, this was done to make vehicle sabotage, foreign materials introduced to the fuel, harder.
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Bitumen Boy



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems to me the MOT station should have refused to test a vehicle with that much crud underneath until it was cleaned up a bit. Obviously they couldn't inspect it properly in that condition Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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vitesse



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Penman wrote:
Hi
I was told that the origin of the underseat tank is military and that those vehicles actually had their filler caps under the seat as well, this was done to make vehicle sabotage, foreign materials introduced to the fuel, harder.


Sounds like a good reason and yes you are right they had the filler caps under the seats as well, they were massive screw on things probably about 3 or 4 inches diameter.
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Dipster



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vitesse wrote:
Penman wrote:
Hi
I was told that the origin of the underseat tank is military and that those vehicles actually had their filler caps under the seat as well, this was done to make vehicle sabotage, foreign materials introduced to the fuel, harder.


Sounds like a good reason and yes you are right they had the filler caps under the seats as well, they were massive screw on things probably about 3 or 4 inches diameter.


Yes and I recall you had to get to them often as those vehicles had one heck of an appetite for petrol!
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andycars



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe putting the tank under the seat was actually an early safety feature - to get you to drive more carefully and avoid accidents Wink
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D4B



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave,

Yes it is going to be a body off job, cab floor and seatbox are already out, then yesterday afternoon the roof came off......

Cheers Steve
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D4B



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And today, the roof side panels, then I ended up using the cutting disc on the angle grinder to remove 8 of the 10 bolts
for the rear of the rear tub...
haven't attempted the 8 bolts ewhich hold it at the front,
they will have to wait until Wednesday now....



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