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peter scott



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ashley wrote:
in a Land rover you could see when it was safe to overtake, but didn't have the power to do.


No Problem! You just fall back from the car you want to overtake and then accelerate and build-up a good speed difference prior to the next place where you suspect there might be an opportunity. If you are wrong and you are now coming up fast on your target then its easy to lose the speed on the brakes. You just keep doing this until you are lucky.

It's just the same with joining a motorway on a short slip road. You don't have the acceleration to increase speed whilst merging so you must enter faster than the motorway traffic and use the brakes to adjust your speed.

(I used to drive a 700cc Reliant Rebel.)

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Using the only old buff log book I have for my 1933 Lagonda I have managed to trace the son of a former owner from back in the early 60s. He's invited me to chat to him on the phone tomorrow and it will be interesting to hear his recollections of the car. Sadly he's already said he doesn't have any pictures to hand. Any suggestions what else I can ask him?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rich5ltr wrote:
Using the only old buff log book I have for my 1933 Lagonda I have managed to trace the son of a former owner from back in the early 60s. He's invited me to chat to him on the phone tomorrow and it will be interesting to hear his recollections of the car. Sadly he's already said he doesn't have any pictures to hand. Any suggestions what else I can ask him?


Perhaps a list of siblings, old neighbours, relatives, friends, work places, neighbourhoods, holiday locations if there was a favourite. Then track them down and see if there are photos or other info. It has worked for me in genealogy and social history. Sometimes over years. I am currently into a 15 year old project that started with a few photos of a Great Uncle and his granddaughter. The approach is very important, it should never give the impression of an interrogation. Perhaps a second meeting and don't forget a gift. Keep them up to date with your research and say thank you, often..
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Give him a ride in the car: sounds and smells may well trigger memories that don't appear otherwise.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's really useful Peter thanks... It's amazing how you can track people these days. The owner in 1961 had a very distinctive name and from that I discovered that his son had qualified as an architect at Heriot Watt in the 60s. He's now retired but he is still on Linkedin!

Good idea about family friends, holidays and relatives etc. Unfortunately as he's in Edinburgh and I'm in Berkshire a personal visit is going to be out but he seems happy to chat on the phone. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rich5ltr wrote:
That's really useful Peter thanks... It's amazing how you can track people these days. The owner in 1961 had a very distinctive name and from that I discovered that his son had qualified as an architect at Heriot Watt in the 60s. He's now retired but he is still on Linkedin!

Good idea about family friends, holidays and relatives etc. Unfortunately as he's in Edinburgh and I'm in Berkshire a personal visit is going to be out but he seems happy to chat on the phone. Smile


Also write down everything that you'd like to cover before phoning, otherwise you're bound to miss something while gassing away Smile

It'd be neat if the son knows where his father bought it from, and sold it to, the info might help with further research.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would never suggest recording a telephone conversation, would I ?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Update on this, I had a good conversation with one of the previous owners unfortunately tinged with a touch of sadness. The chap I spoke to inherited the car when his father and sister were killed in a boating accident in the early 60s. His father acquired the car in the mid 50s and it was sold in 1965. He said that he sold it after just a couple of years to a fellow student (and friend)because he couldn't really afford to keep it. He also said he sold it for £300 and heard that his friend sold it on after just 9 months for 10 times that amount! That of course indicated that I am unlikely to find much from the chap who he sold it to as it sounds like he bought and sold it for a profit rather than form any attachment to it. I will continue searching.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2015 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sent off a V888 yesterday asking for copies of all the previous log books. Be interesting to see what I get back. Confused
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2015 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rich5ltr wrote:
Sent off a V888 yesterday asking for copies of all the previous log books. Be interesting to see what I get back. Confused


I've not tried that myself so it'll be interesting to hear about what results you get, and how quickly you get the information back. I suppose this time of year will affect response times somewhat.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Over the last couple of days I've updated my Mk1 A40 page. Handily the car came with original letters and other documents issued by the supplying dealer to my relatives, in 1960. A few old photos have also been scanned, with the lot now added to the following page:

http://www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/my_car_a40.htm


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was lucky enough last September to acquire a totally original 1962 Sunbeam Rapier Series 111a saloon.I purchased it from the family of the second owner who sadly died in 2014.With the car I have a note of every item of service and a list of all the accesories (inc their cost!) since 1965 when the second owner purchased the car.The original owner of the car,a lady lived about 17 miles from me so the car has been in the same county all it's life.
From the history record a new set of Goodyear G800 radial tyres and tubes cost £32.14 shillings in Dec 1968.A battery in 1969 cost £7 11 shillings and in 1974 a set of Koni shockers cost £15.
The car had been stored in a wooden garage since 1974 and didn't come out again till I bought it.
I remember the car being used in the late 60's early 70's when I had a fastback Rapier.The mileage on the car is 44,000 !
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Mike1 wrote:
I was lucky enough last September to acquire a totally original 1962 Sunbeam Rapier Series 111a saloon.I purchased it from the family of the second owner who sadly died in 2014.With the car I have a note of every item of service and a list of all the accesories (inc their cost!) since 1965 when the second owner purchased the car.The original owner of the car,a lady lived about 17 miles from me so the car has been in the same county all it's life.
From the history record a new set of Goodyear G800 radial tyres and tubes cost £32.14 shillings in Dec 1968.A battery in 1969 cost £7 11 shillings and in 1974 a set of Koni shockers cost £15.
The car had been stored in a wooden garage since 1974 and didn't come out again till I bought it.
I remember the car being used in the late 60's early 70's when I had a fastback Rapier.The mileage on the car is 44,000 !


Welcome to the forum, that sounds great - any chance of a new thread all about your "find"?

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike1 wrote:
I was lucky enough last September to acquire a totally original 1962 Sunbeam Rapier Series 111a


Welcome to the forum Mike. A few years ago I also bought a low mileage Series III Rapier. I look forward to your experiences.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2016 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rich5ltr wrote:
Update on this, I had a good conversation with one of the previous owners unfortunately tinged with a touch of sadness. The chap I spoke to inherited the car when his father and sister were killed in a boating accident in the early 60s. His father acquired the car in the mid 50s and it was sold in 1965. He said that he sold it after just a couple of years to a fellow student (and friend)because he couldn't really afford to keep it. He also said he sold it for £300 and heard that his friend sold it on after just 9 months for 10 times that amount! That of course indicated that I am unlikely to find much from the chap who he sold it to as it sounds like he bought and sold it for a profit rather than form any attachment to it. I will continue searching.
Well as an update on this story, I have since heard back from the chap in the story above and his recollection is that he bought the car for £150 and kept it for a few years. He also says that it created his enthusiasm for vintage cars as he now owns an Alvis12/50 and a Sunbeam 23 both from 1930! He is also going to try to find some photos and other information for me. The hunt continues.
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