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1952 Morris Minor Series MM saloon
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2016 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

peter scott wrote:
I think the MM desigation was used for all the post war side valve Minors regardless of headlamp position. The Series II cars all had the A series 803 cc engine.

Peter


Yes, AFAIK it's a late (high light) MM, from early 1952, as it would originally have had a sv engine fitted. It's been replaced by a later 1098cc A Series.

There's a handy table on this site:

http://potteries.mmoc.org.uk/Identification.htm

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Progress on rebuilding the brakes has continued, as and when time allows. All the front end has been put back together, with new pipes, flexis, shoes, backplates, cylinders and so on, plus new TREs for good measure. Whoever put it together previously had never heard of copper grease, so every joint and fixing was a fight to undo, usually requiring heat to get things moving.



The other day I turned my attentions to the rear brakes, which prompted my other post about dies.

Unlike later Moggies, the MM drum is held on by a large central nut on the end of the half-shaft (as in ukdave's photo of the Z van axle). The wheels bolt to the drum (no studs & nuts, as on later Mogs).

I was able to remove the centre drum nuts on both sides, but one ended up damaged (thanks to an error in the factory manual no less!!), and both threads were u/s at their ends, preventing a nut from re-engaging. I think they'd been cross-threaded in the past.

A thread file improved the threads a little, but not the ends, so the nuts still wouldn't pick up the threads. Nor was my 5/8" die keen to go on either, and I didn't want to force the issue.

In the end I bought a nifty tool online, that works from part way along the thread, where it's un-damaged, and can be wound outwards, restoring the thread as it passes over the damaged area. It's shown below, along with a very nice old tool that can be used specifically for restoring BSF threads where the opening thread is out of action (the securing nuts on early MM Minors are BSF on the rear, later MMs like mine are UNF).



Gentle & repeated use of the above, along with ginger use of the die, saw both threads restored today, which was something of a relief.



A growing pile of bits no longer required ...



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rick,

Good progress—always satisfying when a tricky job turns out well.

We sold those thread repair gadgets when I was in the trade. There's a similar a tool for repairing internal threads, though obviously there's a limit to the minimum size it can deal with.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A bit further down the line probably, but these ABS front wing liners are a good investment to stop the grot building up in the rear of the front wings. I have fitted a set to my 1000 after soaking the whole area in Waxoil, and hopefully it will stop the classic line of rust bubbles forming down the rear edge of the front wing.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Morris-Minor-New-Both-Sides-Front-Wing-Liner-Kit-ABS-Rust-Prevention-Preserve-/182063722436?hash=item2a63d7efc4:g:kdQAAOSw-ndTod41
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2016 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting, thanks norust Smile

RJ

PS Dad's Moggy 1000 passed its MOT yesterday, so that's another that'll be appearing locally.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rick wrote:
Interesting, thanks norust Smile

RJ

PS Dad's Moggy 1000 passed its MOT yesterday, so that's another that'll be appearing locally.


Is that a pre war minor in the background?
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8_10 Brass Cleaner wrote:
Rick wrote:
Interesting, thanks norust Smile

RJ

PS Dad's Moggy 1000 passed its MOT yesterday, so that's another that'll be appearing locally.


Is that a pre war minor in the background?


Yep, a long-term (!) '32 two-seater

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rick wrote:
8_10 Brass Cleaner wrote:
Rick wrote:
Interesting, thanks norust Smile

RJ

PS Dad's Moggy 1000 passed its MOT yesterday, so that's another that'll be appearing locally.


Is that a pre war minor in the background?


Yep, a long-term (!) '32 two-seater

RJ


Very nice. Much wrong with it?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

8_10 Brass Cleaner wrote:
Rick wrote:
8_10 Brass Cleaner wrote:
Rick wrote:
Interesting, thanks norust Smile

RJ

PS Dad's Moggy 1000 passed its MOT yesterday, so that's another that'll be appearing locally.


Is that a pre war minor in the background?


Yep, a long-term (!) '32 two-seater

RJ


Very nice. Much wrong with it?


Mmmmmm I've had it running and drove it about here a bit. I started to do work on it, then got diverted when big Dodge's rebuild began in earnest, and it's been put near the back of the queue ever since. The body's sound although wants a few bits n bobs doing, usual stuff, but I'll get back to it sometime Smile

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Come on ... let's have a look at it! Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SpiggyTopes wrote:
Come on ... let's have a look at it! Smile


As you asked, a thread from ancient times ...

http://www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/forum/phpbb/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=6446

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lovely.
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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How goes the refurbishment? Are you back on the road yet?
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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2016 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No not yet, still been fiddling with various bits and pieces. The brakes are all back together and have been bled, I used a one-man bleeder but the pedal's still a little soft so I'll revert to the old two-person-with-bottle-and-length-of-tubing approach next. I've a pressure bleeder, but I doubt I'll have a fitting to fit the floor-mounted master cylinder.

Yesterday evening I drained off the very old fuel in the tank, fortunately there wasn't too much. I know that the SU pump works ok so I'll re-connect the tank next.

How's the tourer doing nrp?

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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2016 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The clutch finally gave up on the tourer the other day, I was quite worried because I had a particularly steep hill to get up, and it was even slipping on the level if I accelerated.
However, I nursed it home and it is now in pieces in my garage having anew clutch fitted.
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