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safechief
Joined: 04 Jan 2012 Posts: 57 Location: Suffolk
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Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 9:55 pm Post subject: E93A engine weight |
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Hullo all,
Thinking of pulling the engine from my Prefect to renew the rings and generally have a look-see. Bought an electric hoist from Lidl the other day, so cheap I had to! However not sure of engine weight. Don't want to pull roof of garage down.
Can anyone help with this.?
All the best
Jeff _________________ best car ever Daimler V8 saloon 1965, cost me £450. first car Model y Ford cost £15.cars ove 50 years A40 Devon, a30, 35 , consul 375,mini cooper 1962 herald,viva hb Opel ascona, austin1100 capri mk2 many cortinas, saab
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alastairq
Joined: 14 Oct 2016 Posts: 1950 Location: East Yorkshire
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Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 11:59 pm Post subject: |
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The 10 hp engine probably weighs a bit less than the BMC A-series.
What size beam are you slinging the lift from?
If the roof [trusses??] will take your own weight swinging from a rope, [or something,] they'll take the weight of a Ford sidevalve engine.
To lessen the weight to lift, remove manifolding? |
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safechief
Joined: 04 Jan 2012 Posts: 57 Location: Suffolk
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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:48 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Alistair,sounds sensible, especially my weight. Classic please that comes with hoist is sized to fit 40mm square section steel tube as I remember.
Once again thanks for you help
Jeff _________________ best car ever Daimler V8 saloon 1965, cost me £450. first car Model y Ford cost £15.cars ove 50 years A40 Devon, a30, 35 , consul 375,mini cooper 1962 herald,viva hb Opel ascona, austin1100 capri mk2 many cortinas, saab
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safechief
Joined: 04 Jan 2012 Posts: 57 Location: Suffolk
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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:49 am Post subject: |
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Typo there sorry , should be claimed please that comes with hoist.
Regards Jeff _________________ best car ever Daimler V8 saloon 1965, cost me £450. first car Model y Ford cost £15.cars ove 50 years A40 Devon, a30, 35 , consul 375,mini cooper 1962 herald,viva hb Opel ascona, austin1100 capri mk2 many cortinas, saab
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safechief
Joined: 04 Jan 2012 Posts: 57 Location: Suffolk
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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:52 am Post subject: |
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Oh heck 'clamp'. Is it me or predictive text!
Jeff _________________ best car ever Daimler V8 saloon 1965, cost me £450. first car Model y Ford cost £15.cars ove 50 years A40 Devon, a30, 35 , consul 375,mini cooper 1962 herald,viva hb Opel ascona, austin1100 capri mk2 many cortinas, saab
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alastairq
Joined: 14 Oct 2016 Posts: 1950 Location: East Yorkshire
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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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If in doubt, a worthwhile investment of circa £100 or less, off ebay, will get you a hydraulic engine hoist.
These may look like they won't last long , but the rams [usually Chinese] are serviceable, and the frames are often standard box section steel tube [painted]...so can be adapted for modest sums, to make a crane more useful.
{I never bother about whether these things are shoddy, as long as they can be adapted, modified, or whatever, with ease? Perhaps a bit of drilling, or arm replacement?]
I have not just lifted engines, but sometimes the whole car, with one of these. [my cars are light, aside from one or two]...
Main issue I was concerned about was 'reach'.
On mine, the adjustable arm was barely long enough, and only left a few inches of steel inside it's 'sleeve'...so, in future, a metre or so of heavy thickness rectangular box steel[offcut] from a friendly stockist is on the cards....
Also, because I don't have the benefit of a decent warm dry workshop that an entire vehicle can be got into....some of my lifting is done outside....thus I'd be tempted to buy some large diameter, solid wheels to outfit the crane's frame with, making it easier to traverse rough ground with?
But, ebay, and an engine crane, would be my route [well, it was my route!!] I do have a chain hoist, ex-leccy board....but no longer any decent beams to sling it off...my last garage had joists of 6x2, well strong enough to support a swinging sidevalve!! |
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safechief
Joined: 04 Jan 2012 Posts: 57 Location: Suffolk
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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 3:12 pm Post subject: Prefect engine weight |
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Thanks Alistair, saw those, looked good but the problem where to store afterwards. My single garage is full (mostly Prefect)so is my shed, and I have lost my lockup. Electric hoist once rigged will stay up out of the way. Worked out I need 150 cm of 45 mm square box section steel to rig between 3 roof trusses at 600mm centres.
Regards
Jeff _________________ best car ever Daimler V8 saloon 1965, cost me £450. first car Model y Ford cost £15.cars ove 50 years A40 Devon, a30, 35 , consul 375,mini cooper 1962 herald,viva hb Opel ascona, austin1100 capri mk2 many cortinas, saab
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alastairq
Joined: 14 Oct 2016 Posts: 1950 Location: East Yorkshire
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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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BTW, those cranes simply bolt together [they come as a flatpack]....so they can be dismantled [at least, only need to go 'so far' down?]...for storage?
I need to take mine apart just to get it through my workshop door......so that I can lift [sidevalve] engines up onto my workspace?
I'm past lifting engines unaided these days. |
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ka
Joined: 03 Dec 2007 Posts: 600 Location: Orkney.
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 9:15 am Post subject: |
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Having picked up my engine a few times. it seems comparable with a sack of spuds, but the advice of testing by body weight is wise, providing you are not a Victoria's secrets model.
I use a recycled disabled person lift, they have a shelf life, and can be obtained quite cheaply from Nursing homes etc. They also fold flat. I made a new upright to fit in the base, to be able to use as an engine building clamp, so handy for 360degree access. _________________ KA
Better three than four. |
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alastairq
Joined: 14 Oct 2016 Posts: 1950 Location: East Yorkshire
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:31 am Post subject: |
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Now, that...is a very useful tip!! Guess I'll have to cultivate the local health trust? |
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