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Just bought a Pop 103e, 1957
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GARAGE HERMIT



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

made a new throttle pedal to operate the twin SU's, used a morris 1000 pedal and added a few more bend's and a skateboard wheel,






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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does all of it fit inside the car and a cable through the bulkhead?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paul fairall wrote:
Does all of it fit inside the car and a cable through the bulkhead?


yes,
it was a bit of a faff on but work's a treat,
a few people i've talked to have used early mini pedal's too,
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GARAGE HERMIT wrote:
Paul fairall wrote:
Does all of it fit inside the car and a cable through the bulkhead?


yes,
it was a bit of a faff on but work's a treat,
a few people i've talked to have used early mini pedal's too,

The wheel is a bit trick dude
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paul fairall wrote:
GARAGE HERMIT wrote:
Paul fairall wrote:
Does all of it fit inside the car and a cable through the bulkhead?


yes,
it was a bit of a faff on but work's a treat,
a few people i've talked to have used early mini pedal's too,

The wheel is a bit trick dude


My first reaction to the photo was "VW!".
Early Beetles had just such a wheel. A common accessory was a flat metal pedal hinged to the floor & resting on the wheel.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paul fairall wrote:

The wheel is a bit trick dude


thank's,

i'll put a dome nut on the end of the through bolt to tidy it up a bit,
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2018 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fitted some old style holiday sticker's,



fitted my new old style steering wheel,



mounted one front seat, still have to paint the mount's,



replaced the window seal's, that was a right mess on, still have the other door to do,



mounted the imitation ford 1930's rear light's, still have to blank off the original pop mounting hole's,



bought an old door knod to use as a gear leaver knob, i'll have to stain it to match the steering wheel though,


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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2018 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well good new's and bad new's,
good new's is managed to get the SU carb's balanced and running right, they're quite finiky to set up, for me anyway,

bad new's is there's a hairline crack in the engine block (pic) the water isnt running out more of a weep, the clutch is slipping like a goodun, and the steering box is very worn, very nerveracking drive,
so what to do, to sort out these problem's is going to cost a few quid, and quite a bit of work, so i'll have to have a think, bugger,


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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there any adjustment left in the steering box?

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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Is there any adjustment left in the steering box?

RJ


no, i've adjusted it, no real improvement, i've been given an address of a s/box refurb firm, so see what they say,
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1 and a half inches either side of centre measured at the steering wheel rim is considered acceptable, don't be fooled into comparing it with modern cars or with rack and pinion steering, the best steering box conversion is to use a modified VW box and column as used by the MG boys.
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If there is any end float in the column that can cause lost motion. Look at the top of the column from the side and if your steering wheel moves in or out when you rotate it then that's fixable.

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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alanb wrote:
1 and a half inches either side of centre measured at the steering wheel rim is considered acceptable, don't be fooled into comparing it with modern cars or with rack and pinion steering, the best steering box conversion is to use a modified VW box and column as used by the MG boys.

mine's a bit more than 1 1/2", yes i'm not comparing it with a modern car, i'm not un-nerved by most driving scenario's having ridden a motorcycle for over 45 year's, but this thing is leathal,

the VW box mod sound's interesting, do you have any more information on it please,
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

peter scott wrote:
If there is any end float in the column that can cause lost motion. Look at the top of the column from the side and if your steering wheel moves in or out when you rotate it then that's fixable.

Peter


no end float, i adjusted the cup & cone ball race, not too tight not too loose,
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are others but this is the first I came across, http://www.mg-parts.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=82
When I said one and a half inches either side of centre that is three inches in total. My Morris 8 has about an inch either side and that is on a refurbished box, if the tracking and camber angles are correct then it shouldn't be a problem as the car should centre to a straight line with little wander, also make sure there is no lost motion in the drop links and track rod bushes. Still I suppose they didn't call them puddle jumpers for nothing!
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