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Just bought a Pop 103e, 1957
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Paul fairall



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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2017 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GARAGE HERMIT wrote:
alastairq wrote:
http://www.justkampers.com/air-cooled-vw-parts/vw-beetle-parts/front-suspension-steering-bearings/front-shock-absorbers.html

KYB 211413031P.... [2nd from left] have an range from 27 cm to 41 cm.

AN enquirey to the above might get extended and compressed lengths for the shocks intended for lowered VWs?


WOW, £62.75 each,
thank's alastairq, but a bit too rich for my blood, i'll keep looking,
haha, after what you've spent on aquaplane kit that's a pee pee in the ocean. Besides you want it to handle better with all those extra horses.
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GARAGE HERMIT



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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2017 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

managed to get the c/head off today, just needed a bit more tapping and wiggling, then went to remove the c/head stud's as i'm fitting an aquaplane head and it's a bit thicker than the cast head, to fit the longer AP stud's,
the first 11 came out ok, the last two sheared off flush with the block, drilled out one and re-tapped it ok, i'll do the other one tomorrow,
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GARAGE HERMIT



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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

anyone have a picture of the type of valve spring compressor i'll need to use on my pop, and where would i be able to buy the valve guide drift tool, thank's,
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Traditional side-valve spring compressors look like G-Clamps, with the fixed end splayed into a two pronged fork, but you can adapt any system, I have even used my modern one to get the spring compressed to get the cap off. Remember there are no collets, just the spring retaining cap. You will get a mushroom tool from e-bay, there are many around.
Here are a couple of examples: (E Bay)

SIDE VALVE SPRING COMPRESSOR TOOL. Small 3"

An unusual example:
Vintage Ford Split Valve Guide Punch Remover Tool Ford 4 Cyl Model A & B RARE

Where are you, North or South, I have a mushroom tool you can use, but there are many members who probably live more local who can help?????
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ka,
thank's for the quick reply,

yes, i know what a sidevalve compressor look's like, just wanted to get a ford SV dedicated one, the correct size,
i'll just get a generic one off ebay,
no mushroom valve guide removal tool on ebay though,
my location is cleveland, NE yorkshire, a bit too far from orkney, but thank's for the offer,
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.vanpeltsales.com/FH_web/flathead_valveremoval_tools-1.htm

I thought the above link might be useful to you?

I know it applies to flathead V8s, but there were many similarities in design by Ford in that era.

I have re-built the odd 10hp engine in the past..even tuned them, but my memory is getting faulty as to what I used to remove the valves & guides, sorry.

I do have an valve spring compressor intended for OHC engine..[with the long tube to engage the valve head]....since I don't have any OHC engines, I tend to think I used that one for the 10 HP engines? Longer reach, etc?

All very weird? Smile
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thank's for the link alastairq, i had already read it whizzing about on google,
found an old post on here from 2008 on how to make your own removal tool, if push come's to shove, i'll have a go at it,
first i'll phone the local FSOC rep, and see if anyone close to me has one i could borrow,
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just phoned the local FSOC rep, he has both the valve guide tool and the valve spring compressor, and i can borrow them, top bloke,
so i'm sorted,
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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2017 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

See if you can borrow his grinding tool as well, this is the third part of the trio, and far harder to find, but makes valve grinding far easier and more accurate.
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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2017 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ka wrote:
See if you can borrow his grinding tool as well, this is the third part of the trio, and far harder to find, but makes valve grinding far easier and more accurate.


do you mean the stick with a sucker on the end, i've have one,
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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2017 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I spent years searching for the Valve guide tool for my 7W, I managed to find one at Beaulieu and then wandered up a couple of rows and found another!!
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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2017 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GARAGE HERMIT wrote:
ka wrote:
See if you can borrow his grinding tool as well, this is the third part of the trio, and far harder to find, but makes valve grinding far easier and more accurate.


do you mean the stick with a sucker on the end, i've have one,


You can get a cylindrical thing, hinged down one side, that opens up, you put it around the valve stem then insert it and the valve into where the guide goes. It keeps the valve central while lapping it in. That may be what ka's referring to.

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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It certainly is, makes grinding far easier, even though it is not something that has to be carried out too often.
The tool is as Rick described, hinged, with balls along its' sides, and a peg at the bottom to locate the tool.
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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rootes75 wrote:
I spent years searching for the Valve guide tool for my 7W, I managed to find one at Beaulieu and then wandered up a couple of rows and found another!!


fellow FSOC dropped off my 16"prefect wheel's today, and mentioned that the FSOC spare's shop has a bucket full of the mushroom valve guide tool's, if anyone's after one,
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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2017 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thought there was someting strange about the front suspension set up on my pop, it did'nt look like any of the pic's in the book's and manual's i have, just found out it's a Bowden IFS, in 1959 it cost £20.00, it was a straight bolt on mod, a nice surprise, should ride even better when i fit the Woodhead shock bracket's and shock's,


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