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[Rootes75]

At our local tip they will take any metal item, in fact I have seen many items in the 'metal' bin that I would barely describe as containing 50% metal!
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Various Rootes Vehicles.

[Penguin45]

I gave up on my local council tip many years ago. Now I park scrap metal outside the garage door and magically, the scrap fairy visits and takes it all away.

P45.
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[ukdave2002]

There is a little bloke at our local tip who is a real jobsworth...I was unloading conifer cuttings from a trailer, he came armed with a tape measure and announced that the trailer was too long! he jumped into the skip and started throwing the trimmings back on my trailer....but not as fast and we could unload them! it must have been comical to watch, but I was fuming...

Dave

[alastairq]

I think a lot of the issues stem from trying to differentiate between ordinary members of the public, and traders, out to dump their waste?

Round here, small trailers are permitted, but, over a certain size, and one needs a book of tickets. Traders pay business rates. So many tickets are free, then one must pay.

I have a book of tickets for my small car trailer, which I can put boards on, for domestic stuff. They were free, but I only have enough for about one trip a month. Trades folk might be dumping stuff every other day! So it's only fair that they should pay for their waste disposal. After all, a customer has paid them to get rid of waste?

[Ray White]

Fly tipping is a big problem now. I blame the Councils for introducing charges. I have always thought that it should be free to dump almost anything except scrap cars at the tip. If someone is prepared to take their rubbish to the right place they should not be penalised for it. No wonder there is so much fly tipping.

[Riley Blue]

Is it really that much of a problem Ray? I'm in Chesterfield and I don't see much in my travels around the Peak District and beyond.
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David

1963 Riley 1.5
1965 Riley 1.5

[Ray White]

[PAUL BEAUMONT]

Going right back to Rick's original post I ponder on what can go in the metal skip with the stated criterion. Presumably paint excludes it, as does any rubber part that might be bonded on, any wooden embellishment and maybe even rust so what can you put there. Presumably only new metal offcuts that you have first degreased so long as the degreasing agent leaves no trace. What is really needed is a skip for refuse site jobsworths!

[Ray White]

I was refused dumping a heavy old metal sack truck in the 'metal' skip because it had rubber tyres on it's wheels! I couldn't be bothered to remove the wheels so it went to land fill!

[Bitumen Boy]

[Penman]

Hi
You have to remember that there is a cost to the council and ratepayers for having tips open and/or reopening former ones.
Whereas, providing the fly tipping takes place off the councils' owned land/highway, then it is the land owner who has to bear the financial burden
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[Bitumen Boy]

[petelang]

It is a very grave shame that beuracrcy gets in the way of proper common sense and the common purpose of preserving the environment.
If the Council allowed metal scrap dealers to run this element of reclamation it probably wouldn't present a problem but the companies that are involved are, of course, making a profit out of what we need to dispose of and anything that is likely to impinge on that it's more convenient to ignore.
Many other countries in Europe have a greater sense of responsibility about salvage, IKEA even made a whole worldwide industry out of it. Sweden in particular take recycling very very seriously and hence is a very clean respected place. They charge, by weight, anything you chuck into landfill and a prophet would add a very significant charge on your bill, so you are not inclined to do anything else but take it to be properly recycled.
In this country we just create nasty legacies for the future as sooner or later, someone will have to pay to clean up the tip land before anything gets built on top. Therefore it's us, as always, that pay in higher rates, taxes, and the cost of buying a home.
Sometimes I just despair!
Peter

[ukdave2002]

A few year ago there was a bypass being constructed near us, within 50 yards of the bypass was a new housing estate, between the housing estate and the new road was grass.

The residents approached the highways agency to see if a berm could be constructed on the grass land to aid noise pollution and hide the new road. The highways agency approached the contractor, who were happy to construct the berm as they had a surplus of soil from the construction, they even agreed to plant trees and shrubs on it, as the land was within the construction scheme planning consent was not deemed necessary......so everyone was happy

Well no...when the local council got wind of it, they wrote to the contractor advising them that the berm would be treated as fly tipping and given its size would attract a massive fine!

The contractor wrote to residents advising them that they could not risk the fine, the residents petitioned the council who refused to budge.

It took intervention from the then local MP Gwyneth Dunwoody, (who was a force to be reckoned with) to intervene and let common scene prevail.

Whenever I see something in the paper from the council about when they are doing to reduce fly tipping, I have the laugh!

Dave

[Riley Blue]