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[alastairq]

I have asked this question on one of my owner's clubs' sites....so I ask it here for consideration too.

Often I see in adverts for vehicles, where the vendor claims the reg number 'has value'..implying, the reg number can actually be transferred by the new owner.

Now, I have trawled through the DVLA site ..and as far as I can tell, any vehicle which has 'historic' tax status for which the reg number has been either an age-related issue, or for which an original reg number has been granted....that reg number is annotated as 'non-transferable'.

Does this also apply to any vehicle made pre-1960? [That qualifies?]

In other words, even if no obvious attempt has been made to claim historic status....ie, it has simply happened.....possibly because the vehicle has consistently been on DVLA's records, at least from circa 1975 or so........does this still mean, now that the vehicle is classified as 'historic'....does its reg number then become non-transferable too?

Also, with the above in mind, I note that [if a number is transferable], on transfer, the originating vehicle must have a current MoT.
How does this apply if the vehicle is actually exempted from MoT?


If this is all correct....will this mean the end of ebay listings with 'reg number values added as sweeteners?

Thoughts on the matter?

{My experience, I have 3 vehicles, 2 with Historic status, with non-transferable numbers.....one age related, one original, reclaimed. The 3rd is a Q-plate.]

[ukdave2002]

Its quite straight forward:

If a vehicle has been issued with an age related plate because for what ever reason it never got recorded when the DVLA computerised or its an import, then that number can never be used on another vehicle. The V5 will state that the number is non transferable

If a vehicle has retained its original number, then the number can be transferred providing the vehicle has a valid MOT, so an MOT exempt vehicle will have to be MOT'd to enable the transfer.

Dave

[ukdave2002]

Actually what I have said is not quite true; there was a period when the DVLA would issue an age related plate that could be transferred, however this practice ceased in the 80's after people were getting age related numbers, selling them and getting another selling and so on.

Dave

[mikeC]

Although officially an age-related issue will be non-transferable, this seems to be down to the competence and care of the issuing clerk! In the last ten years I have imported three cars which have been issued with age-related numbers, the first and third did not have the non-transferable clause added to the V5C , whilst the second did
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in the garage: 1938 Talbot Ten Airline
Recently departed: 1953 Lancia Appia, 1931 Austin Seven, 1967 Singer Chamois, 1914 Saxon, 1930 Morris Cowley, 1936 BSA Scout, 1958 Lancia Appia coupe, 1922 Star 11.9 ... the list goes on!

[alastairq]

My Dellow was re-imported from USA.

It retained its original registration number.

It is non-transferable.

With the change of classification to historic, will the non-transfer rule then be applied?

Especially as, when the new 40 year date is achieved, the Registered Keeper now has to make application to the DVLA for Historic Vehicle status.

[mikeC]

Applying for Historic Status will not change whether a number is transferable or not.
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in the garage: 1938 Talbot Ten Airline
Recently departed: 1953 Lancia Appia, 1931 Austin Seven, 1967 Singer Chamois, 1914 Saxon, 1930 Morris Cowley, 1936 BSA Scout, 1958 Lancia Appia coupe, 1922 Star 11.9 ... the list goes on!

[47Jag]

Reading this post has got me a bit worried. I have been a bit blase' about regarding my 1947 Jaguar. I bought it back in 1983 and it had an old style V5 which I got upgraded to a V5C in 2005. I suppose my question is what if anything do I need to be doing in light of this new legislation?

Art

[47Jag]

Reading this post has got me a bit worried. I have been a bit blase' about regarding my Jaguar. I bought it back in 1983 and it had an old style V5 which I got upgraded to a V5C in 2005. I suppose my question is what if anything do I need to be doing in light of this new legislation?

Art

[mikeC]

Art, if your Jaguar is already on the road and registered as Historic, then you don't need to do anything. If it is off the road, and the V5C shows it as still Private/Light Goods or whatever, then when you are ready to put it on the road you will need to get the V5C amended to read historic; you cannot get it changed until you are ready to 'tax'it.
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in the garage: 1938 Talbot Ten Airline
Recently departed: 1953 Lancia Appia, 1931 Austin Seven, 1967 Singer Chamois, 1914 Saxon, 1930 Morris Cowley, 1936 BSA Scout, 1958 Lancia Appia coupe, 1922 Star 11.9 ... the list goes on!

[47Jag]

Mike,

The car is a long way from being 'on the road'. Do I have to declare it as historic and if so how does that affect the plate number (FSG15)? Will it become valueless as in non transferable?

Art

[Minxy]

[ukdave2002]

[MikeEdwards]

[Paul fairall]

[Rootes75]

This has got me thinking too, my latest project a 1946 ERF lorry has a very old V5. The lorry is in bits, totally, but is all there. Do I just need to send that very old V5 off to change the owner to me or do I need to re-claim the reg?

I presume I don't have to justify it as it is a V5 after all?
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