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Kleftiwallah



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 7:00 pm    Post subject: Singer Gazelle Reply with quote

I've spotted a Singer Gazelle in a tumbledown small shed covered in brambles. Been there as long as I've known. (No prefix, no suffix).

Sorry but I cannot figure out either Frickr or t'other one to offer snaps.

If anyone is intersetd, email me and I'll send the snaps to you.

Cheers, Tony.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saw one of these on the road in Cwmbran yesterday. It looked tiny, only the size of a new mini. I used to think they were big, posh cars!
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We had one as a project a few years back, it was 1963 and two tone blue/white. The insides on the these are lovely in my opinion.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

emmerson wrote:
Saw one of these on the road in Cwmbran yesterday. It looked tiny, only the size of a new mini. I used to think they were big, posh cars!


Yes, norms have changed. The Gazelle is a mid sized family car. Unfortunately we appear to have imported some of the less desirable norms from across the pond.

When people were working physically hard all day out on the range then food portions that are the norm over there were probably appropriate. Most of these occupations have now become mechanised but food portions have remained at least twice as large as the average person requires. Unfortunately a significant proportion of the population over there (and over here) have lost control and require great fat vehicles like the big fat "Minis".

Sadly the Astra will no longer be made at Ellesmere Port because the demand has dropped in favour of ridiculous outsized vehicles with huge frontal areas and poor fuel economy that is the last thing this world needs.

Of course folk in normal sized cars now find that almost every vehicle ahead of them presents the forward view like the backside of a van so everyone now "needs" bigger and bigger cars for a better view.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi
BMW are now advertising "Our Biggest Mini EVER" as if it is a good thing to do.

https://www.mini.co.uk/en_GB/home/range/mini-countryman.html

Mind you size increases are nothing new.

Vauxhall Vivas HA through to HC

and Frod Cortinas from MK1 through to Mk IV/V
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cars get fatter & fatter, yet the interiors don't give any more room! Too much gucci padding for my liking.

I realised how far down we had fallen, when I spotted Vauxhall Corsas with THREE headrests across the back seats.! FFS, what was THAT all about??

Singer Gazellies are the same size as Hillman Minxes.....
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Gazelle of the early sixties, before Rootes got mad and simplified/cheapened things too much (angular styling for the rear window, simpler overriders) is one of the prettiest small 4 door saloons ever I think. Such a happy, willing car.




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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I much prefer the Gazelle to the Minx, the front end styling is a lot prettier.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But the Rapier is much better than either.
http://www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/rootes.htm

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

peter scott wrote:
But the Rapier is much better than either.
http://www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/rootes.htm

Peter Very Happy



Plus one Peter,regards,JD.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

peter scott wrote:
But the Rapier is much better than either.


A bit of apples and pears really as the Rapier is a two-door.
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Ray White



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Sunbeam Rapier was quite a car in it's day. I remember my Dad being enthusiastic about one at auction but was out bid. In the end he acquired a white Ford Corsair 1500GT (also a 2 door) which was probably a better car. I don't think a Singer Gazelle, nice as it might have been, would have been a match for either of them.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a quite a nice Rapier on eBay at the moment. It looks like it might be a genuine low miles car. It should have two Zeniths rather than the twin choke Solex that was used on the Series IV and it sounds as if the overdrive needs attention. It has rust coming through on the top of at least one wing and I think the sills have been partially replaced but none of that is surprising. Also needs a rev counter.

Peter

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sunbeam-Rapier-1961-like-Hillman-Singer-very-good-condition-1600cc-Bargain/152782490642?hash=item23928bcc12:g:KIkAAOSw6GJaBe6j
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a '61 Rapier IIIA convertible back on 1970. It was a blast to drive, and being only twenty at the time it went "quite fast", if you know what I mean.
In fact it was such a nice motor, I owned it twice!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With the hood folded away the fins on the rear wings seemed to be more pronounced. It looked as if it could fly! Laughing
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