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TR7s .. will they ever catch on big time?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 7:02 pm    Post subject: TR7s .. will they ever catch on big time? Reply with quote

Evening all,

Will the TR7 ever catch on and be as popular as the earlier TRs? The styling isn't the worst I've seen, and it ooozes 1970s-ness if that's your thing. As a compact two-seater, is it likely to become sought after I wonder?

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi
Well this bloke seems to have cornered the market just in case.
https://goo.gl/maps/GWop4q2wQhM2
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Lord I hope not. It never looked right in my book. The wheelbase is about a foot to short for starters and the engine, what was it 98 BHP, must have disappointed anyone coming from a TR6. I liked the BL wedge styling but this, IMO was more of a doorstop.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found one in an old garage a couple of weeks ago in Scotland , first one I have seen for a long time , it was that horrible green colour.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find it difficult to believe that Harris Mann who designed the TR7 was involved in the design of the Ford Escort Mark One and the 1969 Ford Capri.
Both were major successes.

143729 TR7s were produced between 1974 and 1981 but I thought it was an appalling design when I first saw one in 1975. TR7 production was stopped on the orders of Sir Michael Edwardes.

Appreciation of any car is subjective but I cannot see anything attractive in the TR7 although the wedge shape was in vogue in the 1970s.

If you dislike the TR7 then have a look at what was proposed as the Triumph Stag replacement - the Lynx :

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Would you have bought one?

There is one TR7 locally, a silver drophead on a "W" registration.[/img]
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ellis wrote:
I find it difficult to believe that Harris Mann who designed the TR7 was involved in the design of the Ford Escort Mark One and the 1969 Ford Capri.
Both were major successes.



I think the Mark One Escort was very far from being a good looking car. The reason for its success was that it was a really good car to drive.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

peter scott wrote:
Ellis wrote:
I find it difficult to believe that Harris Mann who designed the TR7 was involved in the design of the Ford Escort Mark One and the 1969 Ford Capri.
Both were major successes.



I think the Mark One Escort was very far from being a good looking car. The reason for its success was that it was a really good car to drive.

Peter


I bought my wife an almost new MK1 Escort Sport and she gave me hell because it was a dodgy handler. It was as unpredictable on bumps as it was predictable in the wet when the local garage often had to pull a few out of hedges.

Some Escorts were butt ugly and still sold because people trusted Ford more than BL who’s reliability record was appalling by then.

Now I believe Escorts are valuable because of their race and rally success. Has anyone watched Frank Kelly on YouTube. It’s a MK2 but still incredible.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I must admit that my experience of the Mark One was quite fleeting but relative to other cars I drove at the time I thought it handled well.

I think most of the BL offerings at that time were much happier to go straight on at corners than show any inclination to change direction.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Returning to the original topic for a moment, I think the TR7 will undoubtedly become more sought after due to the blandness of most modern offerings in spite of the poor reputation it got from owners of earlier TR's. I can remember when xk120's were almost worthless and a rough but usable e type could be bought for £50. My first TR2 was bought when I was a student for £25. It has always been the case that all the most desirable cars go through a trough and then begin to appreciate.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having grown up with Mk1 Escorts everywhere, I never saw the appeal for them. Still don't.
When the TR7 convertible arrived, my father knew a salesman from the importer and invited him to come along and show the car to us. So I got a drive in one of the first convertibles. I have to say it did not do much for me then and still does not now.
There is a local Triumph specialist who bought many TR7s in the 90s and 00s and is asking huge prices for them. I still see the same cars advertised for over 10 years so I do not think there is a huge following - yet.

But what about the XJS? Surely these are now at the bottom price wise - they seem to be climbing up. I always liked the styling - low, long and sleek. Now that it is possible to buy one without having to pay road tax (cars before 1988) they do look more and more appealing especially when I can "convince" myself and the lady that they will only rise in value Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So far, no mention of the TR7 V8?

Would the TR7 have benefited from a Dolomite 16 valve conversion?

Shape no worse than that of a concurrent TVR? [Tasmin?]

70's & 80's, dawn of the wedgies?

For me, the downside is, the period interiors....post '70's interiors make me cringe.

TR7, too civilised for a 'sports' car....less like a bus to drive, compared to MGB?

Copes better with today's rough roads than a TR4/5/6? [less likely to leave exhaust behind?]
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 9:42 pm    Post subject: TR7 Reply with quote

Hi. I looked on our NZ auction site "Trademe" to see if there were any for sale. Surprised to find three, but, each had had a V8 fitted.
Would the original motor deteriorate to such an extent as to require replacement? Are there known corrosion or similar faults?
There are not going to be many secondhand motors available here if any at all so I guess the transplants are justified.
By the way, I do not remember ever having seen one.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the Wikipedia figures are correct 2497 TR8s were built, most were exported to the USA making a British registered one a rare car.

I have never seen one.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In answer to the original post:-

NO NO NO.

It is as ugly when compared to the TR5 as the XJS was when compared to the E-type. BL at its worst. And anyway, I thought they had all rusted through within two years? That was the layman's guarantee in the day.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

alastairq wrote:
Would the TR7 have benefited from a Dolomite 16 valve conversion?


The Wiki suggests that around 50 proper TR7 Sprints were made, to help homologate the engine for competition. I thought I'd seen them, but it might easily be the same one at shows.

lowdrag wrote:
It is as ugly when compared to the TR5 as the XJS was when compared to the E-type.


True, but the XJ-S / XJS seems to have become much-loved recently. I have a soft spot for the XJ-S because I remember a salesman in Henlys in Chester giving me a brochure for it when it was new. Just a kid at the time, went in there on the way back up to Chester railway station.
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