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Ellis
Joined: 07 Mar 2011 Posts: 1382 Location: Betws y Coed, North Wales
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 8:00 pm Post subject: Do wire wheels "make" a car? |
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I have often thought about this because there are more wire wheeled classics on the road today than there were in the 1960s and 1970s pro rata.
A case in point is a Jaguar Mark 2. Have a look at the comparison here :
A steel wheeled Mark 2 in my view looks a dignified saloon but do wire wheels add a "caddish" aspect to it? There are more wire wheeled Mark 2s to be seen now than steel wheeled ones, the same applies to "S" types and 420s/Sovereigns.
I only ever saw one of these - A Rover 2000 with wire wheels although Prince Charles once owned one.
Whereas I saw quite a few of these :
I think the Triumph suits wire wheels but I'm not so sure about the Rover.
Here's one car that looks superb on wires :
I always thought a Triumph Spitfire looked better on wires than a Midget/AH Sprite :
I could continue with the MGB, I rather liked the Rostyle style of the later models.
What are your opinions? _________________ Starting Handle Expert
1964 Jaguar Mark 2 3.4 litre
1962 Land Rover Series 2a 88"
2002 BMW M3 E46 Cabriolet |
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kevin2306
Joined: 01 Jul 2013 Posts: 1359 Location: nr Llangollen, north wales
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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Steel wheels every time for me Ellis
Kev |
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Ellis
Joined: 07 Mar 2011 Posts: 1382 Location: Betws y Coed, North Wales
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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kevin2306 wrote: | Steel wheels every time for me Ellis
Kev |
Wire wheels are a burden to clean and maintain but can I ask you for the reason(s) for your opinion. _________________ Starting Handle Expert
1964 Jaguar Mark 2 3.4 litre
1962 Land Rover Series 2a 88"
2002 BMW M3 E46 Cabriolet |
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ukdave2002
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 4104 Location: South Cheshire
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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From an aesthetic perspective I prefer wire wheels, but only on the right car! They just don't look right on later cars IMHO wire wheels look good on an MGA but don't suit an MGB.
From a practical perspective steel wheels would win; they don't flex like wire wheel do and require a lot less maintenance, but hey, do we run old cars for practical reasons?
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alastairq
Joined: 14 Oct 2016 Posts: 1950 Location: East Yorkshire
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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....plus, there's the issue of splined hubs wearing , perhaps prematurely?
Wire wheels look good on many cars [Triumph Vitesse for one, IMHO]....and rubbish on others.
They are fine whilst clean & in good fettle.....but a nightmare if not.
My Sprite [back around 1970] had wires..also came with a full set of Pierce Magna alloys [centre knock-on]..which I sold on as superfluous.
What I do dislike, associated with wires, is the change to a nut-shaped spinner, instead of the ones with ears.
Also the need to carry a Thor, or hide, hammer? _________________ Dellow Mk2, 1951 built, reg 1952.
Fiat 126 BIS
Cannon special [1996 registered. Built in 1950's]
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Ford Pop chassis, Ashley 1172 bodyshell, in pieces. |
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Ray White
Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 6308 Location: Derby
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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I think it depends on what image the car portrays. A sports car will carry off the wire wheel look better than a staid saloon car. A Rover P4, for example would simply look wrong with wires but an MG TC looks spot on.
There are always border line examples and I would place the Mk2 Jag in that area. The image Jaguar wanted to give was a combination of "grace, pace and space" as they put it. The bigger Jags, however, would not look good; imagine a mark 10 on wires! Horrible. |
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Ellis
Joined: 07 Mar 2011 Posts: 1382 Location: Betws y Coed, North Wales
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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Ray White wrote: | The bigger Jags, however, would not look good; imagine a mark 10 on wires! Horrible. |
Jaguar Mark 10 on wire wheels :
No, it just doesn't look right but a dark blue Jaguar 420 does :
I think it's something to do with colours on 1960s Jaguars, the darker the colour, the better they look on wire wheels. _________________ Starting Handle Expert
1964 Jaguar Mark 2 3.4 litre
1962 Land Rover Series 2a 88"
2002 BMW M3 E46 Cabriolet |
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kevin2306
Joined: 01 Jul 2013 Posts: 1359 Location: nr Llangollen, north wales
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 8:42 am Post subject: |
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Ellis wrote: | kevin2306 wrote: | Steel wheels every time for me Ellis
Kev |
Wire wheels are a burden to clean and maintain but can I ask you for the reason(s) for your opinion. |
Purely aesthetics Ellis, especially the Dunlop steels.
Kevin |
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Ashley
Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 1426 Location: Near Stroud, Glos
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 9:02 am Post subject: |
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My Healey looks right on wires but my TR3 didn’t so I switched to steel. I never thought Jags benefitted from wires. |
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Rick Site Admin
Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 22442 Location: UK
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badhuis
Joined: 20 Aug 2008 Posts: 1390 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 10:36 am Post subject: |
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Ray White wrote: | The bigger Jags, however, would not look good; imagine a mark 10 on wires! Horrible. |
Ellis wrote: | I think it's something to do with colours on 1960s Jaguars, the darker the colour, the better they look on wire wheels. |
Ashley wrote: | I never thought Jags benefitted from wires. |
Rick wrote: | Painted wheels on a Mk2 look fine to me, I'm not keen on chrome wires at all though. |
Grey painted wires looked very good on my 1967 MGBGT. I also am not a fan of chrome wire wheels, not on a sports car. But they are in good company with my light coloured 420 I think.
_________________ a car stops being fun when it becomes an investment |
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Bitumen Boy
Joined: 26 Jan 2012 Posts: 1735 Location: Above the snow line in old Monmouthshire
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 11:09 am Post subject: |
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I would always prefer steel wheels over wires (or indeed alloys) any day. Steel wheels are such a doddle to refinish at home that they're always going to look good to me - if something looks like a PITA to maintain I pretty well automatically don't like its appearance, I guess I'm just lazy... |
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Ashley
Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 1426 Location: Near Stroud, Glos
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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Wire wheels are easy to clean, just squirt them with proprietary cleaner, leave for a few minutes and rinse off with water and a soft brush. |
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peter scott
Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 7118 Location: Edinburgh
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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I like the look of them but I'm for ever breaking spokes and I do find them a pain to clean. You are also forced to use tubed tyres.
Peter
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Ellis
Joined: 07 Mar 2011 Posts: 1382 Location: Betws y Coed, North Wales
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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kevin2306 wrote: | Ellis wrote: | kevin2306 wrote: | Steel wheels every time for me Ellis
Kev |
Wire wheels are a burden to clean and maintain but can I ask you for the reason(s) for your opinion. |
Purely aesthetics Ellis, especially the Dunlop steels.
Kevin |
In my opinion one of the handsomest set of steel wheels produced by Dunlop were the ones for the British Leyland version pf the MGBGTV8.
There is something unique and classy about them :
A friend owned an MGBGTV8 from 1985 until reshelled it as a MGB V8 roadster in 1997. At the time, he couldn't find anybody who was willing to restore his old Dunlops, the construction was so complex and they comprised polished alloy and chromium parts.
In the end he took a deep breath and bought new ones at some expense :
Those wheels are a work of art but those MGBGTV8 owners I knew, and there weren't many, bought Minilite or Minilite copies in their place. _________________ Starting Handle Expert
1964 Jaguar Mark 2 3.4 litre
1962 Land Rover Series 2a 88"
2002 BMW M3 E46 Cabriolet |
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