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Austin100



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 9:23 pm    Post subject: AUSTIN 10 gs1 Reply with quote

Can anybody help?
I have a1946 Austin 10 gs1 and am struggling to get the timing sorted. The Cassell's handbook says there is a small inspection cover on the flywheel housing that shows when no1 piston is at TDC. I cannot find the cover. I have looked in the engine bay etc.
Does anyone have a similar car is there an inspection cover on yours??
Also there doesn't seem to be any marks on the fan belt pulley so any ideas how to set the timing please.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi
The earlier 10's had an inspection cover, centrally, in front of the gear lever, on the bell housing.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Penman
Thanks for the reply when you say an earlier model is it still the gs1 type?? And is the cover visible without removing anything.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome to the forum.

Somewhere I probably have a factory manual for the GS1 but right now I can't lay my hands on it. I did find a handbook from 1946, it doesn't mention the cover in the text but, to back up what Penman says, in an overhead (cutaway) diagram of the car, it does show a small inspection cover on top of the housing, just in front of where the gearlever goes into the 'box. From memory the 10 has a rubber gearbox cover which would need removing to access the inspection cover, from inside the car. Remove the carpet over the transmission tunnel and you should see things better.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to follow up, I had a look in my copy of your Cassell book on the Ten, the inspection cover they refer to (pages 165-7) is the one accessible most likely from inside the car, once the cover over the gearbox has been removed.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rick
Thanks for the info yes it does have a rubber cover I will remove it and see if it's there.
Cheers Peter
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Austin100 wrote:
Rick
Thanks for the info yes it does have a rubber cover I will remove it and see if it's there.
Cheers Peter


Let us know how you get on. It'd be good to read more about your Ten, I like the styling on that era of 8 and 10.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Peter,

You could just take the appropriate spark plug out and sense TDC with a stick then mark it on the crank pulley. With a little geometry you can then the mark the actual timing position.

HTH

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Austin100



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Peter

Is this possible with this engine being a side valve when I look through thre spark plug hole I see the top of the valves I think.

Thanks Peter
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Peter Au. (we have a few Peters')

A quick check for the compression stroke, press your thumb or finger over the #1 spark plug hole and have the engine turned (by hand). You will feel the air compressing as it comes up on the that stroke. As Peter S suggests, mark the pulley and block, first somewhere with say chalk so you can double or treble check the feel of the compression and then when it is absolute TDC, a small dab of white paint, but if you can get in, make a dimple with a drill bit and fill with white paint. HTH's2.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peter,

OK if you can see the valves thatís great. To get a rough area where TDC is monitor the valves on No.4 while an assistant turns the engine, it may take a couple of revolutions, as the No. 4 exhaust valve closes the inlet valve will be getting ready to open. At that point No. 1 is TDC on it compression stroke. Mark the pulley at this point and you have rough timing mark. For ignition timing purposes itís close enough to get the engine running. It can be moved with the engine running to get the best idle and road tested to check for pinging and retarded slightly if you hear it.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peter l and Art

Thanks for the advise.
What you both say makes sense. I will have a look first for the inspection cover which is supposed to be behind the gearstick gator but failing to find that I will try your suggested method.
Unfortunately my car is in a lockup garage away from home so getting access to it is a bit limited but as soon as I get time I will try and get it sorted.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have removed the carpet and removed rubber gear box cover alas no inspection cover!!
The top part of the bell housing where I would assume the inspection cover to be is behind a metal plate which runs across the width of the car. Removing this looks fiddlly and it seems mad to have to remove this to get at an inspection cover. (Which might not even be there)
I have taken some photos but don't know how to up load them !!
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A chassis view of the related 8 can be seen on the following page, and it just about shows the inspection cover.

https://www.austin-eight.com/austin8history.htm

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Austin 100

You might try making a note of where the #1 cylinder high tension lead is on the distributor cap, then remove the cap & rotate the engine until the rotor points in that direction with the points just breaking. That will be TDC on #1 cylinder.
Then put a chalk mark on the bottom engine pulley & the block. It won't be 100% accurate, but you'll be in the right area.
(I wouldn't mind betting you'll find timing marks already there!).
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