|
|
| Author |
Message |
alastairq
Joined: 14 Oct 2016
Posts: 1952
Location: East Yorkshire
|
 Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:20 am Post subject: |
 |
|
| Ray White wrote: | Excellent Alastair ...but how does it work?
(Please be patient with me) |
I suspect...the float slides up and down the track?
I linked that purely as an example....less 'Chinesey' items may be had elsewhere..but at a price..
_________________
Dellow Mk2, 1951 built, reg 1952.
Fiat 126 BIS
Cannon special [1996 registered. Built in 1950's]
----------------------------------------------
Ford Pop chassis, Ashley 1172 bodyshell, in pieces. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
alastairq
Joined: 14 Oct 2016
Posts: 1952
Location: East Yorkshire
|
| Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:29 am Post subject: |
|
|
https://www.asap-supplies.com/fuel-systems/fuel-gauges-senders/level-senders
From gooogle, this page show a list of the sliding senders of various lengths....the MG's fuel tank will be quite a deep one...maybe at least 18 inches or more, perhaps?
Exactly how does the 'low fuel level' warning light actually work? Would it not receive its signal from a 'sender?'
Another issue with fitting a 'sender' is, getting a gauge to which the signals match.
_________________
Dellow Mk2, 1951 built, reg 1952.
Fiat 126 BIS
Cannon special [1996 registered. Built in 1950's]
----------------------------------------------
Ford Pop chassis, Ashley 1172 bodyshell, in pieces. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Ray White
Joined: 02 Dec 2014
Posts: 6310
Location: Derby
|
| Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:32 am Post subject: |
|
|
| alastairq wrote: | | Ray White wrote: | Excellent Alastair ...but how does it work?
(Please be patient with me) |
I suspect...the float slides up and down the track?
I linked that purely as an example....less 'Chinesey' items may be had elsewhere..but at a price.. |
The problem there is that the length of the track is only 200mm which assuming it is top mounted would not be long enough.
Here is the tank as found in Australia
Note the back of the tank has been opened up at some time...
Last edited by Ray White on Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:43 am; edited 1 time in total |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Ray White
Joined: 02 Dec 2014
Posts: 6310
Location: Derby
|
| Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:37 am Post subject: |
|
|
| alastairq wrote: | https://www.asap-supplies.com/fuel-systems/fuel-gauges-senders/level-senders
From gooogle, this page show a list of the sliding senders of various lengths....the MG's fuel tank will be quite a deep one...maybe at least 18 inches or more, perhaps?
Exactly how does the 'low fuel level' warning light actually work? Would it not receive its signal from a 'sender?'
Another issue with fitting a 'sender' is, getting a gauge to which the signals match. |
Yes, it would need to have a long reach.
The sender unit operates a simple switch and light. MG were able to get away with not even having a water temperature gauge...not even a Motometer on the rad!
I understand that cars were in great demand after the War so anything went.
A side view.
 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Ray White
Joined: 02 Dec 2014
Posts: 6310
Location: Derby
|
| Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 11:10 am Post subject: |
|
|
| alastairq wrote: | My Dellow has a 15 gallon fuel tank, stuck on the back like the MG's.
Dellows also didn't have a fuel gauge.
Aside from the fact that to fill the tank would be beyond my [pension-supported] means...I have a long piece of hardwood, about 1/2" square....and spent a happy morning sniffing petrol fumes whilst I drained the tank to stuttering point...then added one gallon after another, marking the fuel dipstick [literally..a stick!]......until my wallet cried ''enough''....
The marks were scorched in using one of those cheap cordless soldering irons [from Liddel]....
The stick lives behind seats ...[I must produce a purpose-made pair of clips for it.]
Wood is best, in my view, as the fuel level can be clearly seen on the [dark] wood...I did consider brass...but couldn't find any brass long enough to reach the tank bottom from the filler. Besides, petrol is harder to see on metal.
I might, one day, affix a posh handle to the top of the stick...but that day will be a long time coming [I don't 'do' external picnic baskets either]... |
I have a purpose made dip stick which I use on my Austin Seven Swallow. The tank sits under the bonnet and checking the petrol level is easy but then again I don't go far in it.
The MG will be a different kettle of fish. Building up a fairly common car from a desperate pile of bits one does not feel the same need to "re create" originality. If I can fit a proper petrol gauge then I don't see why I shouldn't. I will also have a water temperature gauge ...and a supercharger boost/vacuum gauge.... |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
traction39
Joined: 19 May 2009
Posts: 399
Location: South Wales
|
| Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 11:27 am Post subject: |
|
|
I have to say that the wood stick works remarkably well!!
_________________
Alistair
Citroen Light 15 1953, "12" 1939,
Riley 9 Special 1932 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Ray White
Joined: 02 Dec 2014
Posts: 6310
Location: Derby
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
ukdave2002
Joined: 23 Nov 2007
Posts: 4104
Location: South Cheshire
|
| Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:51 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Ray
As long as the instrument builder is aware of the resistance range of the sender, they will be able to build a gauge to suit.
Dave |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
ukdave2002
Joined: 23 Nov 2007
Posts: 4104
Location: South Cheshire
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Ray White
Joined: 02 Dec 2014
Posts: 6310
Location: Derby
|
| Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:25 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Hello Dave. Interesting possibility. Pity they don't do one 500 mm.
Also, what is VDO? please explain. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Penman
Joined: 23 Nov 2007
Posts: 4756
Location: Swindon, Wilts.
|
| Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:39 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Hi
There is another possible solution.
A sight glass.
2 ninety degree brass elbows, one let into the the tank near the bottom and the other one near the top and a glass tube connecting them.
_________________
Bristols should always come in pairs.
Any 2 from:-
Straight 6
V8 V10 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
ukdave2002
Joined: 23 Nov 2007
Posts: 4104
Location: South Cheshire
|
| Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:41 pm Post subject: |
|
|
VDO is a company that make lots of automotive electronic and electro-mechanical devices. You see their name on lots of instruments.
You could fit the 450mm unit and treat the bottom 50mm as your "reserve" tank?
Dave |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Ray White
Joined: 02 Dec 2014
Posts: 6310
Location: Derby
|
| Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 2:58 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| ukdave2002 wrote: | VDO is a company that make lots of automotive electronic and electro-mechanical devices. You see their name on lots of instruments.
You could fit the 450mm unit and treat the bottom 50mm as your "reserve" tank?
Dave |
Thanks for that. Yes, I suppose I could still keep the low level warning light as well.
No excuse for running out then!!! |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
alastairq
Joined: 14 Oct 2016
Posts: 1952
Location: East Yorkshire
|
| Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 3:03 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Penman wrote: | Hi
There is another possible solution.
A sight glass.
2 ninety degree brass elbows, one let into the the tank near the bottom and the other one near the top and a glass tube connecting them. |
Sight glasses [on a petrol tank] are quite vulnerable to damage from external means [a stone flicked up, for example?]
Not to mention an introduction to another method of leakage?
_________________
Dellow Mk2, 1951 built, reg 1952.
Fiat 126 BIS
Cannon special [1996 registered. Built in 1950's]
----------------------------------------------
Ford Pop chassis, Ashley 1172 bodyshell, in pieces. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Ray White
Joined: 02 Dec 2014
Posts: 6310
Location: Derby
|
| Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 3:08 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Penman wrote: | Hi
There is another possible solution.
A sight glass.
2 ninety degree brass elbows, one let into the the tank near the bottom and the other one near the top and a glass tube connecting them. |
I have one of those on my oil central heating tank!!!
The idea with this MG is to have an old car without the limitations.
I may be reckless but this is my pension!! |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
FAQ
Search
Memberlist
Usergroups
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
