Classic cars forum & vehicle restoration.

[rdover]

It's not often I get to be anything but the most idiotic, however it seems I may have the oldest car here!

Yesterday, on my 40th birthday, I bought this rather interesting car. After many months of consideration, trying to decide on a new project as for the first time in 20 years I had nothing to do in my garage I finally took the plunge. Am I mad? possibly, However it looks like a fun project to bore tha pants off people never mind teh snob value at parties ..."You have an old car too ? What, a 1962 Minor? Sorry mine would regard that as a mere upstart!"

As it is now


And what it could become


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[Rick]

wow - like it!! that seat was designed with comfort in mind wasn't it!!!

Rick
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Various 1930s-1960s relics - Austin, Morris, Bedford, Dodge etc.

[buzzy bee]

Hi

Is that a 2 seat runabout, 12hp?

What age is she, Alldays started in 1898 and were taken over by enfield, which they owned since 1907, in 1918.

Some more details and photos as she is now would be really good, I have a special interest in older classics, veterans etc.

Cheers

Dave

[rdover]

My information is rather incomplete.

The car was advertised and is registered as 1912 but there may be evidence that it was actually manufactured in 1909. I am making enquiries on that basis. A&O took over Enfield in teh 1890's but didn't use the name for cars until about 1915 until 1925 when they stopped making cars.

The company was formed in 1652 as makers of bellows for forges and branched out into making bicycles, tricycles, quadricycles, cars and guns (eg Enfield) as well as motorbikes. They are still around today as Alldays Peackock Ltd making fans etc for furnaces! The history is as fascinating as the car.

I believe it to be 3,000cc, 12HP but the HP was calculated as a function of bore v stroke for tax purposes rather than power specification. It spent a lot of its life in Africa where is was renovated with a high quality ugly stick before being repatriated in 2004.

My plans are to get it started so I can see how bad the engine is, replace the firewall and the seating to a 4/5 seat arrangement ready for next summer. After the summer season I will start to dismantle completely to repaint the chassis and body in a more appropriate colour. If the engine is goosed I will do a ground up restore from the off, in time for it's 100th birthday in 2009.

I can do most of the work myself (it's not likely to be too taxing) but engineering and paint work is best left to the specialists.

It arrives on Tuesday when the real examination begins.

[UKdave2002]

Hi and welcome

What a fantastic project, and a challenge, you won't be able to go down to your local motor factor with a list of parts!

Cheers Dave

[Job-Rated]

Cars like that should have wings!

Jus' kiddin'. That is an amazing vehicle. Welcome aboard.

[rdover]

Aye, mind you I'm just off on a parts run for my other 'classic'

[buzzy bee]

Hi

Looks a bit like a Pinzgauer. Great fun offroad, we had that to play in for a while, then a 50K fastrac that we found was very good at drifting! hehe

Cheers

Dave

[rdover]

It's a Volvo TGB13 (or C304 in civilian guise) adn rather good in the muck

[rdover]

Well it arrived last night ( I can recommend TF Transport for cheap and reliable shipping) and was unloaded using the winch on the front of the 6x6.

Having got grubby with it for the first time I can see there are a number of basic things wrong with it - it may be a LWB with a shortened chassis! This would explain a lot of things like steering column and pedals being in the wrong place!

If correct it is easily sorted and given there are no electrics or hydraulics and only 1 copper pipe to worry about (fuel) it's an easy but long job. I suspect I'll spend months researching before I do anything!

[Rick]

for some reason (!) I thought of your car when I recently purchased this postcard from 1903 - make sure you attach the front axle properly before going for a ride!



R
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Rick (Admin. oldclassiccar.co.uk)
Various 1930s-1960s relics - Austin, Morris, Bedford, Dodge etc.

[rdover]

I like that!

[arossco]

What an amazing car ! I remember seeing one at the Montague motor museum in the 60s - I imagine it must still be there ..

Reading this thread inspired me to go a bit of Googling - found this interesting story

http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/alldays1/alldays2.html

Ross

[rdover]

I've been in email communication with John Teniswood for a couple of weeks and he has been a wonderful source of information.

I will, as I often do, be building my own website and will be sure to list as much definitive information as I can. The Alldays is a rather rare beast although most in the vintage world knows about them there is very little specific info on the web.

I'm having fun getting it working and deciding how I'm going to approach the restoration. It'll never make a show winner but a change of colour, a new seat and a refurbished radiator adn it'll be a good looking Edwardian car adn a reliable runner.

[rdover]

I have written a potted 'history' of all of 2 weeks of my ownership and have just toady received a copy of a magazine from 1994 detailing the history and provenance of the car

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