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1937 Fordson Model 61, E88W
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Jonnie



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:42 pm    Post subject: 1937 Fordson Model 61, E88W Reply with quote

Here are some pictures of a 1937 Fordson Model 61 E88W pickup truck we are currently restoring.
Fitted with an unusial "tin side" V8 flathead engine it was supplied new to a market garden in Kent where it spent all it`s working life, eventually being layed up in a shed sometime in the 60`s where I believe it stayed for 30 odd years. Part of the shed collapsed and allowed the weather to seriously damage the rear nearside but the front and cab are in remarkably good condition.

Here are a couple of pictures of the truck as found





Over the winter and spring we have stripped it right down to the chassis, had many of the components blasted and primed.
The engine has been stripped, it is a 17 bolt V8 with tin sides to the block which apparently was only made for a few months, making it rare but hard to find parts for, although fortunately it appears to be in very good condition.

Here is a picture of some of the rear damage

And the start of dismanteling

If there is enough interest I will post some more pics and details of progress as we go along.
Jon
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats a great looking lorry!! look forward to watching progress, there aren't too many lorry owners on here as yet..!!

Rick Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

I say put as many pics and info up as you can, it looks really interesting.

Could you tell us anything about the general history of E88W's, when it was designed, made etc?

Like you say the cab looks good, but there seems to be a little rot in your photo underneath, nothing that can't be repaired though!

Cheers

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Greg



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very nice and yes, more pictures would be great Laughing it's nice to see things progress Cool
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting to see the rot in the rear axle arm, I had to replace them on my E83W a couple of years ago, as they had rotted out along their lower seam just like that.

I'm looking forward to following this rebuild Smile !!

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great to see an early Ford truck getting done up.Is this model the same as a 7V?The front was in pretty remarkable shape,considering it's been standing for 40 odd years.Please do keep the pics coming,I'm sure plenty of people will follow your build with interest.
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Jonnie



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the interest, I think this model was made in Daghanem, it is not the same as the 7v, being smaller a smaller truck and I think it is a bit earlier.
Here are a few pictures of the sales brochure, complete with price list!

Chassis ........ 190
Chassis and cab ..... 212
Ambulance chassis ..... (v8 ) 235
Truck ......... 232
Van ........ 260
The 8 cylinder option was another 10
Shame we can`t buy it for that now! Razz



Here is a picture of the chassis which has been blasted and is now being built up in primer ready for top coat.

This is what was the rotten tiebar all welded and repaired

Here are a few other bits of running gear, again all blasted repaired and awaiting refitting to the chassis


And finally the cab, looking a bit forlorn in the corner awaiting attention!

We hope to paint the chassis in the next week or so, then there should be some fairly rapid progress and I should have a happier dad as he has spent hours and hours on the chassis repairing then primer ... rub down ... primer ... rub down ... primer .....
But it will be worth it when we apply some topcoat .......We hope! Wink

Jon


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great stuff Jon, its going to be a great looking lorry.

The only E88W I've ever seen was this one, at Malvern a few years ago



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Rick,
I have heard of a couple of other trucks but I haven`t seen them and don`t know if they have the V8 fitted. I`ll be very happy if ours looks as good as the one in that picture when finished!

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This talk of E88Ws has got me thinking, a few years ago someone offered me a part-dismantled lorry that I think was an E88W, possibly in Scotland if memory serves. I may still have the email - somewhere - and there were pics with it, I'll see if I can find it and post the pics

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jon

Thought you might like to see these pics, I was sent them in September 2005 by someone looking to sell their father's part-restored 1936 lorry.








I'll try and find out if it ever sold, all this talk of E88Ws has fired up my interest in these pre-war lorries Smile

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rick,
Nice pictures it would be interesting to know if it has had any further restoration and if it had the V8 engine fitted.

We had a bit of a set back with ours today when a local firm who said they could make us a new windscreen surround let us down! ....So if anyone knows of a firm who can fabricate a surround for us I would be pleased to hear from them.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Jon, it looks like the body structure is the same as the American 35/36 Ford truck cab, certainly has the same dash and instruments. We had them here in Oz, but timber framed where the US version is all steel, but the components like the windscreen frame were the same as the US items as I suspect yours might be too. This is a local one here for comparison...




.... you can see they look the same. Ford often shared tooling around their plants, over here Pilot windscreens are sought after for '35/'36 Ford V8 cars as they are a direct interchange, but made from brass instead of steel. It might be worth trying to locate a truck w/s frame in the USA, have a look on their Ebay and also on their truck forums. Love your truck,by the way. Can you put on some pics of the engine, never heard of the tin sides so I'd be interested to see it, cheers, Col.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Col,
Thanks for the information, that`s great news and I will have a look around to see what I can find
The engine was apparently only made for a short time because of some sort of regulations in the UK ...I think! Another odd thing about it is that it has 17 stud heads fitted.
Here are a couple of pictures of the block showing the "tin side"



And after around 200 hours work and numerous coats of primer we managed to get some black topcoat on the chassis today Very Happy
Now we can start reinstaling the springs and axles etc.



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 7:38 am    Post subject: e88w restoration Reply with quote

Jon what an awesome truck that is the first one i have seen love the look

of it you are making excellent progress thanks for posting the pics and

info found it really interesting i am repairing an e83w with the goal of

getting it back on the road making slow progress i love the look of the

fordsons regards brentnz
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