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Pre-war SU Carb q?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 11:07 pm    Post subject: Pre-war SU Carb q? Reply with quote

Hello all

I'm just cleaning up the carb of the 32 Morris, it has a small SU in the typical Morris fashion. I've not had a carb this early before - I removed the dashpot and piston but noticed that :-

a. there is no spring on the piston (correct? or is it missing?)
b. it doesn't have a damper attached to the removable (brass) cap, that goes down inside the piston into the damping oil, like on later SUs

Are these normal features of a 30s SU? the carb doesn't look like it has been apart or messed with in recent times, but I just want to check that its ok and all there?!?

Somewhere I've a Burlen catalogue that might shed light on things, but I thought I'd run it by everyone here, in case anyone knows??

ta
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quite a few pre-war SU carbs as with Morris just had a plain cap and no damper as with my 1939 Rover 16.

My 16 does have a piston spring - the piston is horizontal as its a down draft carb.

Nothing is listed for a spring in the Morris either - if its a side draft it may not have had one
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi
That is interesting as there is no mention here about springless ones, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SU_carburetor however there is an explanation about how to identify the type and a link (not functioning for me) to the Burlen site.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil - Nottingham wrote:
Quite a few pre-war SU carbs as with Morris just had a plain cap and no damper as with my 1939 Rover 16.

My 16 does have a piston spring - the piston is horizontal as its a down draft carb.

Nothing is listed for a spring in the Morris either - if its a side draft it may not have had one


thanks Phil, I had a look around this morning and on this site it mentions how some early SUs didn't have springs. It doesn't mention the plain caps though, so thanks for confirming that!

http://www.sucarburetors.com/faq.html

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't remember about the damper on the cap, but the early 30s SU carbs had 'use bicycle oil' stamped on the cap.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Correct! I have just looked mone says that and it has specially machined slot for a coin - old penny?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil - Nottingham wrote:
Correct! I have just looked mone says that and it has specially machined slot for a coin - old penny?


mine has neither, ah well Smile

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Morris are lesser cars than Rovers Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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When I get in the office tommorow I'll mail you a illustarted scan of the carburettter components from the Morris parts manual. You are right it has neither a spring or damper.
For info the later H1 which were fitted to the morris 8's have a damper but no spring

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil - Nottingham wrote:
Morris are lesser cars than Rovers Wink


forum membership can be revoked at any moment!!! Smile Wink

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rovers are better than Morris Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ukdave2002 wrote:
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When I get in the office tommorow I'll mail you a illustarted scan of the carburettter components from the Morris parts manual. You are right it has neither a spring or damper.
For info the later H1 which were fitted to the morris 8's have a damper but no spring

Dave


aye that'd be handy, ta Dave!

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the su site has exploded diagrams for some of its carbs.... this is the one from my 33 morris 10-4

http://www.sucarb.co.uk/ExplodedImageClassic.aspx?pumpsearch=&ProductId=11996

no spring and no damper.... also no flange to attach an air filter!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mid wrote:
the su site has exploded diagrams for some of its carbs.... this is the one from my 33 morris 10-4

http://www.sucarb.co.uk/ExplodedImageClassic.aspx?pumpsearch=&ProductId=11996

no spring and no damper.... also no flange to attach an air filter!


ah yes that looks very similar, thanks mid, I'll take a photo of mine and pop it on here later

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