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Changing from an M5 to an E-Type
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lowdrag wrote:
I need some info here. The plug leads are wrong for a 3.8; the plaque on the air cleaner is what? Based on the steering wheel, the car is pre-December 1962, but the interior is all wrong for that period. The wheels are wide rim, not correct 5J originals and she is wearing radials nor crossplies. The servo pipe is wrong. The carburettors are now wearing brass dash pot covers but originally they were zinced. The otter switch is wrong - should be hroizontal not vertical. The header pipe from the radiator to the engine is of a later period. The header tank is perhpas wrong too - wrong angle of the inlet but I need to research this. As an ex concours judge I am afraid I am going - at the moment - to have to pass on the car.

I hope you take this in the best of spirit. Coming from an M5 this should be a learning curve and that is what it is going to be. In the Jaguar world we see many highly polished cars that are nice but - sadly - nowhere near what they should be. The only thing we tolerate is a stainless instead of a mild steel exhaust.


Shocked was the OP holding his car up as a 100% accurate back-to-factory-fresh example?? or an E-Type that he clearly enjoys owning, maintaining and using?

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I loved my E series 1.5 roadster when I had it but was only a JDC member for one year (and one meeting - don't ask). The car was turned into bricks and mortar when sold.
I like used and patinated cars I like shiny and looked after cars but best of all cars that are used - however with the greatest respect to those who do I can't be bothered with concours and the nit picking. I don't suppose the angle of a pipe or plug leads will bother me when the grim reaper calls nor will matter in a hundred years.
No intention to upset anybody - each to their own.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lowdrag wrote:
I need some info here. The plug leads are wrong for a 3.8; the plaque on the air cleaner is what? Based on the steering wheel, the car is pre-December 1962, but the interior is all wrong for that period. The wheels are wide rim, not correct 5J originals and she is wearing radials nor crossplies. The servo pipe is wrong. The carburettors are now wearing brass dash pot covers but originally they were zinced. The otter switch is wrong - should be hroizontal not vertical. The header pipe from the radiator to the engine is of a later period. The header tank is perhpas wrong too - wrong angle of the inlet but I need to research this. As an ex concours judge I am afraid I am going - at the moment - to have to pass on the car.

I hope you take this in the best of spirit. Coming from an M5 this should be a learning curve and that is what it is going to be. In the Jaguar world we see many highly polished cars that are nice but - sadly - nowhere near what they should be. The only thing we tolerate is a stainless instead of a mild steel exhaust.


lowdrag,

No offence taken, but are you on the right forum Question Laughing

This is a restoration forum and you start critiquing my car as if its on a Concours Forum.

My cars project thread says Work in Progress WiP. As Rick says I dont advertise it as concours. Its a car I enjoy driving, showing so other people get pleasure from it and a lot do. Plus as funds alllow I work on it to bring it back to a more enjoyable driving car but Rome wasnt built in a day. So it gets done as time and funds allow.

You having to "pass" on the car, I certainly wont sleep. Wink

In my 15 mths of ownership I think you are the only to be negative about the car Sad
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a superb E type and you know what as its yours and you've paid for it you can do what you like with it, now I know why after being reminded by reading Lowdrags comments that by the time I was on my third Jaguar a 3.8 Mk 10, I was so sick and tired of the Jaguar attitude that I never bothered rejoining the clubs
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

standardsteve wrote:
What a superb E type and you know what as its yours and you've paid for it you can do what you like with it, now I know why after being reminded by reading Lowdrags comments that by the time I was on my third Jaguar a 3.8 Mk 10, I was so sick and tired of the Jaguar attitude that I never bothered rejoining the clubs


Steve are you still a Mk10 owner Question

I agree with you about the clubs "some" can be clicky and pompous
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Car-nut you have done a fantastic job with your car. Engine looks totally brilliant good work my friend!

Lowdrag...IMO commenting with your concours judging skills on someone car without their permission can only be seen as some kind of put down to Car-nuts hard work. By writing "I hope you take this in the best spirit" doesn’t excuse rudeness. It’s not needed on this friendly forum.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Car-Nut"][

Steve are you still a Mk10 owner Confused

Alas no, I had my Mk 10 quite a while back but kids and house buying put all that on hold, having now done the Jag scene I looked round for something a little older and now have a 1949 Rover P3 - 75 and a Standard 10 I will down load some photo's of my MK 10 when I've scanned them in but until then here is where it all started, its a photo of me about 6 years old in 1967 sat on my father 3.8 MK 10

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve,
Thanks for taking the time to upload the picture.

Fantastic Exclamation Exclamation

What a coincidence but my 420G which I finally collect Saturday is Regency Red. Very Happy

As you can imagine Im very excited and cant wait to get the car home, I did the deal in September but havent had the time to collect it.

Mine isnt a rare manual overdive, so I have to learn how to drive an auto on my 200+ mile journey home plus get used to the size of the car....
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finally an update, sorry its been a while Smile



Finally I got the sugar scoops out....



Looking at them I presume they have be done in Hammerite smooth silver Question

With those out the bumper could be easily removed.

This had bugged me since 26th July 2009 when I got the car.





Any way I stripped it down and it will go off to the platers at the end of the week with a few parts for the "G"

An interesting thing when i took the headlamps out, one looks like a sealed unit, is it when the bulbs go you just throw them Question



I had a spare that came with the car so will put that back in.



Also I had some new bulbs Id bought ages ago on the shelf, will these be brighter or are they just a different shaped bulb Question



Now looking tootless and rootless Exclamation Exclamation



Even if bumperless it needs to be back together for the 17th Aprill for the St Georges day rally Im driving in..... Should be a laugh Laughing

Through 20 villages and about 70 miles ish.....
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Car-Nut, You are right in thinking that the sealed beamed unit is thrown away, its just a very large bulb. the two bulbs you have together will be different, the round one will be a standard bulb, the thin one is probably halogen, well worth upgrading to halogen while you have it all out, I changed my sealed beams to halogen and the difference is amazing.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Victor,

I cant believe headlamps are sealed beam, this must of been a lot more expensive option than a bulb....

I will check my invoices for 2009, but Im sure I ordered Halogen when those round bulbs came.

Certainly worth upgrading if they arent I was caught out in Cheshire last October at 4.45pm and driving to the m6 it was like I had a torch shone in front of me Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the best thing about this is that this E-Type appears to be being run on a budget, with Car Nut doing all his own work, rather than a lot of Jaguar owners who I suspect leave the car with a local specialist to sort out any problems and hand them a vast amount of cash at the end.

Well done Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Richard,

I sometimes try to budget but with sorting 3 cars at the moment the big G is soaking up large amounts of money and the E took a bit of back seat it was only after driving it the other day and some chrome going off for the G I thought I best remove the bumpers. To be ready for the shows etc.

I will update the G- Reggie later if I get 5 Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Word of warning, if you do get or have got Halogen bulbs for your car dont handle them by the bulb part as the sweat or any oil or grease from your hands will shorten the life of the bulbs. Ive known mechanics handle bulbs by the glass part and they have blown in less than a week, so handle by the base only.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With the headlamps sorted. The re-chromed bumper got fitted.

Day 1 when I got the car.... I always thought the bumper let the front of the car down.



The chrome after its been rechromed and been given a good polish Wink



Building it up...









The standard of the parts:











These sections were in poor condition and apparently after dipping there was more braise than metal on the inside
they did the best they could.



Before fitting it back together I gave it a good coat of hamerite silver smooth on the inside Wink

For that extra bit of protection
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