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mikeC
Joined: 31 Jul 2009 Posts: 1771 Location: Market Warsop, Nottinghamshire
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Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:02 pm Post subject: Oily rag Standard |
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This looks an attractive proposition:
https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1286461
_________________ in the garage: 1938 Talbot Ten Airline
Recently departed: 1953 Lancia Appia, 1931 Austin Seven, 1967 Singer Chamois, 1914 Saxon, 1930 Morris Cowley, 1936 BSA Scout, 1958 Lancia Appia coupe, 1922 Star 11.9 ... the list goes on! |
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Rick Site Admin
Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 22429 Location: UK
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BigJohn
Joined: 01 Jan 2011 Posts: 954 Location: Wem, Shropshire
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Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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Thank heavens that isn't near me, I couldn't afford the divorce! _________________ 1974 Mk1 Escort. |
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mikeC
Joined: 31 Jul 2009 Posts: 1771 Location: Market Warsop, Nottinghamshire
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Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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My thinking too, John, that's why I posted it, in the hope that someone will remove the temptation _________________ in the garage: 1938 Talbot Ten Airline
Recently departed: 1953 Lancia Appia, 1931 Austin Seven, 1967 Singer Chamois, 1914 Saxon, 1930 Morris Cowley, 1936 BSA Scout, 1958 Lancia Appia coupe, 1922 Star 11.9 ... the list goes on! |
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Keith D
Joined: 16 Oct 2008 Posts: 1127 Location: Upper Swan, Western Australia
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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If everything has been done to the car as indicated in the advert, then it sounds as if somebody has bought themselves a very nice vehicle at a reasonable price.
Keith _________________ 1926 Chrysler 60 tourer
1932 Austin Seven RN long wheelbase box sedan
1950 Austin A40 tourer
1999 BMW Z3
Its weird being the same age as old people.
You are either part of the problem or part of the solution |
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mikeC
Joined: 31 Jul 2009 Posts: 1771 Location: Market Warsop, Nottinghamshire
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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Unfortunately the buyer was a dealer, so it's now for sale at an increased price!
https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/classic_cars.php?advert_type=1&page=2 _________________ in the garage: 1938 Talbot Ten Airline
Recently departed: 1953 Lancia Appia, 1931 Austin Seven, 1967 Singer Chamois, 1914 Saxon, 1930 Morris Cowley, 1936 BSA Scout, 1958 Lancia Appia coupe, 1922 Star 11.9 ... the list goes on! |
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MVPeters
Joined: 28 Aug 2008 Posts: 822 Location: Northern MA, USA
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mikeC
Joined: 31 Jul 2009 Posts: 1771 Location: Market Warsop, Nottinghamshire
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Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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Now with yet another dealer, and another £1,000 increase! Do they think we're all stupid?
https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1302016 _________________ in the garage: 1938 Talbot Ten Airline
Recently departed: 1953 Lancia Appia, 1931 Austin Seven, 1967 Singer Chamois, 1914 Saxon, 1930 Morris Cowley, 1936 BSA Scout, 1958 Lancia Appia coupe, 1922 Star 11.9 ... the list goes on! |
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Ray White
Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 6282 Location: Derby
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Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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I shall not name him but one dealer I knew a few years ago would not buy a car unless he could at least double the price after it had been titivated with. He made a comfortable living, thank you very much. |
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badhuis
Joined: 20 Aug 2008 Posts: 1390 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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Ray White wrote: | I shall not name him but one dealer I knew a few years ago would not buy a car unless he could at least double the price after it had been titivated with. He made a comfortable living, thank you very much. |
Although I probably would never buy from such a dealer, I cannot see what is wrong with it. If someone is happy with the price a dealer asks, then why not?
If someone wants a car for the lowest price possible, he has to investigate. There are many ways to get a car. Cheapest probably would be outside any sale system, so from one person to another. This is also the hardest because how would you find such a person / car?
The most easy way and convenient is buying from a dealer. What surprises me is the amount of people that do not care to overpay at a dealer, even though they are not rich at all. The same for modern cars. It seems for many they do not care to spend hundreds more at a "reputable" dealer.
But, as said, if everybody is happy then why not. Just not for me (or any sane person). _________________ a car stops being fun when it becomes an investment |
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Ray White
Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 6282 Location: Derby
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Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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I was careful not to make a value judgement. There is no come back from a private sale so perhaps that is something to consider when wincing at dealer prices. |
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mikeC
Joined: 31 Jul 2009 Posts: 1771 Location: Market Warsop, Nottinghamshire
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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:39 am Post subject: |
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I don't have a problem with a dealer making a profit, that's the nature of any business. What saddens me is when a car moves from dealer to dealer for more and more money without ever finding a private buyer. There's another example at the moment, of an early Lancia Y10 which is now with its third dealer and now at twice the price it was a year ago (and has also miraculously lost half its recorded mileage and number of previous owners!) _________________ in the garage: 1938 Talbot Ten Airline
Recently departed: 1953 Lancia Appia, 1931 Austin Seven, 1967 Singer Chamois, 1914 Saxon, 1930 Morris Cowley, 1936 BSA Scout, 1958 Lancia Appia coupe, 1922 Star 11.9 ... the list goes on! |
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Ray White
Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 6282 Location: Derby
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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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mikeC wrote: | I don't have a problem with a dealer making a profit, that's the nature of any business. What saddens me is when a car moves from dealer to dealer for more and more money without ever finding a private buyer. There's another example at the moment, of an early Lancia Y10 which is now with its third dealer and now at twice the price it was a year ago (and has also miraculously lost half its recorded mileage and number of previous owners!) |
I believe it is fairly commonplace amongst antique dealers. Some rare cars are like 'Old Masters'. Once they get on the International merry go round they never get off.!
The thing that ought to be stamped out is the clique of dealers who attend auctions and agree beforehand who is getting what in some grubby little deal where the car ends up on their 'circuit'. |
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Penman
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 4748 Location: Swindon, Wilts.
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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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Hi
I never understood how a ring worked, even if they are going to re-auction between themselves afterwards, surely a dealer can always be outbid by a private buyer who isn't looking to make a profit on the deal. _________________ Bristols should always come in pairs.
Any 2 from:-
Straight 6
V8 V10 |
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Ray White
Joined: 02 Dec 2014 Posts: 6282 Location: Derby
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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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Penman wrote: | Hi
I never understood how a ring worked, even if they are going to re-auction between themselves afterwards, surely a dealer can always be outbid by a private buyer who isn't looking to make a profit on the deal. |
Yes they can be out bid by a private buyer but it is generally the case that when supply outstrips demand many cars are either sold with provisional bids or are left unsold. |
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