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Ray White



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I stand corrected. The body is typical of Cross and Ellis who, as we know, were the Coach builders of choice for Alvis.
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Rootes75



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just followed a battered old J reg Land Rover lwb pickup down into the village, it had no rear lights working!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Alvis PN 9546 is a 1932 TL 12/60 Cross and Ellis sports saloon which was dispatched on 1st June 1932. The present owner I believe acquired the car in 1994 and is local to Nantwich.
Most of the 2 seater sports bodies as mine were Carbodies the saloons and tourers C & E. I cannot explain the engine capacity which should be 1650cc other than an engine change or clerical error.
Ray I think the dummy hood irons only appear generally on the rather heavy looking fabric saloons.
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Ray White



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Salopian wrote:

Ray I think the dummy hood irons only appear generally on the rather heavy looking fabric saloons.


Good point. I appreciate the research you must have done. This must be quite a rare car as many saloons seem to have been converted into specials etc.
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Salopian



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ray - You flatter me! While my main interest is Pre 1930 (and certainly pre 1940) plus I have a fairly extensive library built up over 50+ years I happen to be acquainted with this car and its owner. Of course it also helps to be a member of the Alvis Register who produce a comprehensive list of members cars and production survival/details so I can say with some confidence about 75 TL 12/60s exist which is a survival rate of 36% approx of those built. As you say many saloons have been lost to new open coachwork but of approx 811 known survivors from production of the 12/50 12/60 and early sixes between 1920 and 1932 the Register knows of 80 surviving saloons. Real anorak stuff.
So my research merely involved looking in the membership list!!!!
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Ray White



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Salopian wrote:
Ray - You flatter me! While my main interest is Pre 1930 (and certainly pre 1940) plus I have a fairly extensive library built up over 50+ years I happen to be acquainted with this car and its owner. Of course it also helps to be a member of the Alvis Register who produce a comprehensive list of members cars and production survival/details so I can say with some confidence about 75 TL 12/60s exist which is a survival rate of 36% approx of those built. As you say many saloons have been lost to new open coachwork but of approx 811 known survivors from production of the 12/50 12/60 and early sixes between 1920 and 1932 the Register knows of 80 surviving saloons. Real anorak stuff.
So my research merely involved looking in the membership list!!!!


Johnathan. We must be cut from the same cloth because I am the same about Austin Swallows.!

I can't remember it's registration number but my good friend and neighbour Abey Stevenson has an attractive Alvis 12/50 tourer. Seeing it glinting in the sunshine always lifts my spirts. Incidentally, we are both restoring MG TCs.
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Salopian



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes could tell you that reg number!
Austin Swallows - well when I was at school with one J Corbyn many years ago I seem to recall he owned one not however in running order and while on Sevens my brother owns 2 Speedys one being the Carr/Barbour car CZ 6324 which ran at Le Mans in 1935 and is at present in the Brooklands museum.
Used to have a TC reg LWL 70 not seen since 1972!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A blue Moggy 1000 just drove by, while a Ford D series dropside drove by a couple of times the other day.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trip to B and Q in Volvo. Saw a nice Humber Sceptre Mk 2 on Lancaster Lane, in Clayton le Woods.



(Picture is Volvo in B and Q car park, not, alas, the Humber.)
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the A586 between Gt Eccleston and Poulton le Fylde this morning, a nice BRG TR4 with the roof down, and also a black Ford Pop.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the A303 near sparkford this afternoon a Mk1 Transit Ambulance up on the back of a trailer. Very rough looking but obviously a project for someone.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Model A Ford pick up truck being carried on a truck, spotted this morning on my way to work. Its noticeable now the volume of traffic on my commute is increasing even though we are still in a lock-down.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2021 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rootes75 wrote:
Its noticeable now the volume of traffic on my commute is increasing even though we are still in a lock-down.


I don't know how things are furter afield but in the immediate area traffic seems to be pretty much back to normal. It was nice while it lasted...
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do a reasonable number of [essential] journeys throughout the whole period since last year. I live quite rural, so need to travel anything from half a dozen, to , probably up to 20-plus, miles distant for essential jobs [I'm paid by the State to avoid work, for the sake of the younger generations, no doubt?]

I have a small family, inside a bubble, although I live an isolated [by choice] existence.

Being rural, I have a choice of routes I can take to get to my regular places, either main roads, or rural back roads/lanes/tracks.

By choice, I do my best to avoid the major routes, even if that means an extra mile or so. But I also dad's taxi around my son , to feed him, and help him cope with what the rest of your world throws his way, which might involve a trip to a maccydees drive thru for a hot choccy or one of their excellent coffees. [At 99p, I cannot understand how starbux or costla can charge so much for basic coffee?]
So I find I'm still doing nearly a couple of hundred miles each week or so.

What I have noticed, is the marked increase in poor driving standards.
Not from the 'new' drivers, but from what appear to be , the older generations [30-upwards!]

A marked increase in the total disregard for Highway Code, road markings, signs etc.
Never mind the urban speed limits.

I also note an increase in RTCs in the area...folk smacking into each other, or just themselves.

It's almost as if the older population are saying, sodditt, I don't care any more, no-one will bother to bring me to account....etc..
It's as if this covid thing has affected peoples' brains....made them even more self-centred than usual.

Or is it, the drivers in my local, fairly rural location are finally catching up with the urban nightmares that pass for drivers in the big conurbations?

Anyway, I always know when a major route has been 'shut', in my travels, by the number of drivers I meet on my back routes who aren't used/able to deal with narrow-ish, what might be deemed single track, lanes, as they wander around the Wolds on their diversions?
How come they always expect me to get out of their way when we meet?
I'm always happy to take to the greens to pass anybody...providing I see they they, too, are happy to do their bit as well.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2021 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since the start of the pandemic there has been a noticeable disregard for the speed limits through the village, I think people just dont care anymore.
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