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1930 Ford Model AA
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 11:59 am    Post subject: 1930 Ford Model AA Reply with quote

Morning all,

This old truck, a long-termer here at OCC HQ, has appeared in the background of a few vids but I thought a move-around recently would be a good time to talk about it a bit more.



Footage of it running and moving can be found here:
https://youtu.be/BrYPJIu___I

It wasn't exactly an accidental purchase, it popped up for auction, I bid, but I was a surprised winner. It had come from a long-term collection that had been sold off a while before I found it, having passed through a few hands in the meantime. A few parts were missing and it wasn't a runner, so early work focused on replacing various parts and getting it into a running condition. I've had it down the road a few times and took it to a school fair one year (with little Dodge), there are a few jobs outstanding and various cosmetic/paint/originality glitches, but they can wait.

It's believed to have spent its early years in Ireland, the following b&w photo came with it so I assume it's the same truck, although if so then the style of rad surround has changed and the horn has moved position to under the bonnet.



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marvellous stuff, Rick.
What was the fuel consumption ?
Did it take a long time to go anywhere in it?

How much were those tyres? Did they come from the USA?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alastairq wrote:
Marvellous stuff, Rick.
What was the fuel consumption ?
Did it take a long time to go anywhere in it?

How much were those tyres? Did they come from the USA?


Fuel? no idea, hasn't really done any journeys.
Quite low geared so I expect it would.
I forget the price of the tyres now, the fronts were new, the rears are matching little-used. No they were bought here, Lucas brand iirc.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just looked up the tyres, Lucas tyres not too costly, in the greater scheme of things? [I assumed 18 inch wheels?] Only a couple hundred pensionquids if a 20 inch wheel [6 x 20]

7 wheels altogether....
Best get some mileage under its belt before the tyres go hard, eh?

Apparently they will manage around 40 mph flat out, so welcome to the new [post-lockdown?] world....
Anyway, what a marvellous truck indeed...

What would it's gross weight come out at?

[I ask out of curiosity, since I've just renewed my drivelling licence online , consequently I've sacked my C1 and minibus entitlements. Preferring not to have to cough up a hundred quid or so for a medical.]
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As you know, for many years I ran A's and a few AA's, and wish I still had one. The radiator shell with the painted in-fill was not used until the 1931 Model Year, so if the vehicle is definitely dated as 1930, then the old photo has the correct radiator shell.

Apart from that Rick, it looks beautiful, and in spite of the radiator shell, I would be happy to give it a home.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lovely looking truck Rick.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very nice looking vehicle.
Can we see some more pics from different angles please.

Edit: never mind I just watched the video
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Embarrassingly, when I read the title of the video I thought it was about a truck that used some sort of spring device to start the engine instead of a starter motor. Not sure how that would work.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Miken wrote:
Embarrassingly, when I read the title of the video I thought it was about a truck that used some sort of spring device to start the engine instead of a starter motor. Not sure how that would work.


Spring starters were [still are?] available for various lorries, especially those parked outside, and away from a boost source of 24 volts for starting.
A couple of decades or so ago [1990's. How time flies?] I used to live opposite a farm stackyard. The farmer ran a small fleet of 8 leg Fodens and stuff, bulk tippers. Some of those had spring starters.
The driver [or 'starter-upper] , especially on a cold winters morning [pre-dawn usually, they always woke me up!]would crank up the starter springs using a lever [in the cab], then, having set all the cold start gubbins, would release the starter to turn the engine over. Didn't hear the usual starter motor noises, usually a small whine then the big diesels coughed into some sort of life. Loadsasmoke, as was common with old school diesels, until the manifolds heated up.

Nowhere near as much a surprise as being stood in front of a Saurer bus, which had a compressed air start! Big hiss, then VROOOOM! A complete surprise!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi
Some aircraft (ie Swordfish for one) had a flywheel starter., I've seen the Navigator winding away on the handle to get the flywheel spinning before the pilot engaged the starter.
Have any road vehicles, or even small IC engined railway locos used such a system?
Another method of starting aero engines was of course the cartridge start, and I know that has been used on tractors (ie Field Marshall) again are the any other road or rail going examples?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Among the after-market accessories for motor vehicles before the electric starter was nearly universal, in other word before 1920, there were many different starter devices used and some of them were spring powered.
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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2021 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's one incredible gem and it is even operating very well! Nice
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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2021 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Penman wrote:

Another method of starting aero engines was of course the cartridge start, and I know that has been used on tractors (ie Field Marshall) again are the any other road or rail going examples?


A great sequence in "The Flight of the Phoenix".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IACjOvyx5hs&ab_channel=pcuser80

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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2021 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back in the eighties and nineties many rotary lawn mowers were started by a spring starter. Usually on two strokes, there was a rotary handle flat on top of the engine that you wound up for several revolutions and then operated the release lever. Hopefully it started. Unfortunately 2 strokes mowers could be very temperamental, especially on a hot day.

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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2021 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi
One of the Honda mopeds had a similar spring starter.
I think it was 2 or 3 kicks on what looked just like a normal kick start and the release a lever on the handlebars.
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