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Miken



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 12:19 pm    Post subject: Trim Reply with quote

When I bought my truck, the cab interior had a bench seat and some tatty home made door cards fitted but nothing else.
It was like sitting inside a biscuit tin. No carpet, side paneling or head lining and very noisy to drive.
One of the first things I did was to make new interior panels and door cards.
I made These from 4mm ply covered with vinyl purchased from Woolies trim supplies.
However, over the months I've had to remove various panels when I've done welding or painting. Every time I remove a panel I see that the vinyl has come unstuck from the wood. I've had to re-glue some bits 4 times.
I've tried a couple of different makes of spray contact adhesive and follow the instructions (spray, wait a couple of minutes for it to tack off) but they never seem to stick for long.
What am I doing wrong?
Mike
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petelang



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Dad always swore by Evo Stick contact adhesive. He used to use it for everything and 50 years on, examples of formic he stuck is still firmly bonded. Trick was a thin coat on both surfaces, allow to tack off and then stick it on and put a weight on top.
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Ray White



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a pleasant surprise yesterday. Three large parcels delivered to my door by DPD from the Trimmers in Market Drayton. Sandra, the lady responsible for my order, had recovered the TC door cards and other interior trim panels in my chosen leather "Mountbatten sand" and I am pleased with the result. The seat that came with the car was not only incorrect but broken up inside beyond repair. I have had a new seat made from scratch which Sandra has also covered in the same leather. To be honest, I was quite overwhelmed by the sheer beauty of the workmanship but also intimidated with the task ahead of me. Yards of piping and a whole hide of leather required to finish the car's interior and dashboard.

I seem to have made a rod for my own back.

Why do I do it? Shocked
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peter scott



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 3:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Trim Reply with quote

Miken wrote:

I've tried a couple of different makes of spray contact adhesive and follow the instructions (spray, wait a couple of minutes for it to tack off) but they never seem to stick for long.

Mike


I seem to remember getting good results with 3M Automobile Aerosol Adhesive. I wasn't cheap though. https://www.3m.co.uk/3M/en_GB/p/d/v000143860/

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Miken



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the suggestions.
I think I'll try the Evo stick with a spreader first.
Peter is correct. The 3M spray on is very expensive.
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badhuis



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ray White wrote:
I seem to have made a rod for my own back.
Why do I do it? Shocked


That's the trouble when properly restoring a car. Things that look good enough on a non-restored car, will look a bit shabby against the new (renewed) gleaming other parts. So more and more parts "needs" to be restored or replaced to an as new condition.
It is a main reason why I am not a fan of restored cars. Properly done, the car should be like a (new) showroom condition and will cost big money. Not properly done, you always have little or bigger things, a bit worn or coloured by the sun, that seem to stand out and bring down the complete picture.
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Miken



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I purchased some Evo-stick as suggested.
I bought it in a tin with a spreader (It also comes in tubes and aerosol form).
Tried it on some of my unstuck edges and left it overnight with weights on.
This morning I can already tell that it's stuck far better than the spray glue that I used before.
Thanks for the suggestions.
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Ray White



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

badhuis wrote:
Ray White wrote:
I seem to have made a rod for my own back.
Why do I do it? Shocked


That's the trouble when properly restoring a car. Things that look good enough on a non-restored car, will look a bit shabby against the new (renewed) gleaming other parts. So more and more parts "needs" to be restored or replaced to an as new condition.
It is a main reason why I am not a fan of restored cars. Properly done, the car should be like a (new) showroom condition and will cost big money. Not properly done, you always have little or bigger things, a bit worn or coloured by the sun, that seem to stand out and bring down the complete picture.


The only consolation I have is that just about everything is available for this model of MG. That was a temptation I could not resist and it has cost me dear.
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peter scott



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ray White wrote:


The only consolation I have is that just about everything is available for this model of MG. That was a temptation I could not resist and it has cost me dear.


...and if nothing was available it would have cost you nothing??

...or would you just have paid a lot more so that it became available?

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Ray White



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

peter scott wrote:
Ray White wrote:


The only consolation I have is that just about everything is available for this model of MG. That was a temptation I could not resist and it has cost me dear.


...and if nothing was available it would have cost you nothing??

...or would you just have paid a lot more so that it became available?

Peter Laughing


What I mean, Peter, is that if I could not buy what I needed "off the shelf", I would not have embarked on such an ambitious project. The TC is supposed to be an easy restoration because everything is readily available.


The beauty of my Triumph GT6 was that I could always get the parts. The Austin Swallow is basically an Austin Seven at heart and again most parts are available.

Where I went wrong with the TC was getting carried away with tasty upgrades that are available and not thinking about how much it would all eventually cost.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ray White wrote:
Where I went wrong with the TC was getting carried away with tasty upgrades that are available and not thinking about how much it would all eventually cost.

You will be forgiven for this when you have a fantastic TC - eventually Very Happy
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Ray White



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder if I will ever do another car?

Once bitten; twice shy.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ray,

Love of old cars and their restoration is the most addictive hobby on the planet. I restored my Chrysler and my Seven at the same time. It nearly drove me mad. I swore that I'd never do another car.

You bought the 'G' because you wanted to have the fun of restoration and later, the fun to drive. You have tackled a difficult job with great enthusiasm and skill. Don't be discouraged now. Just keep plodding into the job as you have done since you started. It will soon be time to start her up. Then all of us on this forum will all be delighted by the video you will post of her first drive since her re-birth.

I am now nearly eighty, but if I saw the right car I would be very tempted to buy it to restore. You may feel p#ss#d off at the moment, but it definitely won't last, especially when you get to drive your dream.

Keith
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How many of us have been caught in the same way! In 2013 my engine needed a rebuild after over 100,000 hard miles. "Do you want this upgrade, do you want this other" - and so the money went. I did go for some "downgrades" as some would say, replacing the tatty chrome wheels with painted, and have never regretted that decision. They look much better.
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