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Ray White
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alastairq
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Gosh, I used similar to those 40 years ago on one of my model railway layouts...
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Bitumen Boy
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Location: Above the snow line in old Monmouthshire
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What are you trying to do, Ray? Is the idea to remove the complete dash easily without faffing around with the wiring at the back first? It's an idea I like... to make removing and replacing the dash almost as easy as changing a wheel  |
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Ray White
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Location: Derby
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| Bitumen Boy wrote: | | What are you trying to do, Ray? Is the idea to remove the complete dash easily without faffing around with the wiring at the back first? It's an idea I like... to make removing and replacing the dash almost as easy as changing a wheel |
Yes. The dashboard simply screws to the scuttle frame with some wood screws. I have had a new one made and as there is a separate dash wiring loom, it seemed to make sense to be able to simply disconnect a multi plug (and remove starter, speedo, choke and tacho cables of course)..
My original plan was to have the dash hinged so it could be simply folded down but it is a convoluted shape which complicates matters. If I could easily remove the dash I would also not need to take off the steering wheel. |
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ukdave2002
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MVPeters
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Ray
I think you need something a bit more substantial than those.
But, realistically, how often do you think you'll need to access the dashboard? I wouldn't introduce any more connections than really needed.
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Ray White
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| MVPeters wrote: | Ray
I think you need something a bit more substantial than those.
But, realistically, how often do you think you'll need to access the dashboard? I wouldn't introduce any more connections than really needed. |
I agree but I will not be making any more connections than is needed to join the separate dashboard wiring to the main harness. It is more to do with wiring the dash away from the car (on the bench) then connecting everything as quickly and easily as possible.
I am also making some additional holes and covering the dash with leather; I need a bench for that too.
I am trying to avoid this... which while it does the job is not the prettiest or most convenient solution.
I will look for something more substantial.
Something like this perhaps?
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MVPeters
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Yes, they look a bit better.
My old Mini had 2 fuses - my 2002 MINI has upwards of 50!
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Minxy
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I strongly recommend investing in a pair of the proper non-insulated terminal crimping pliers. One of the best tools I ever purchased.
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Minxy
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I strongly recommend investing in a pair of the proper non-insulated terminal crimping pliers. One of the best tools I ever purchased.
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Ray White
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Location: Derby
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| MVPeters wrote: | Yes, they look a bit better.
My old Mini had 2 fuses - my 2002 MINI has upwards of 50! |
Yes. I have seen several reports of dashboard fires in old cars. I take the view that manufacturers continued with the two fuse set up for far too long... then again, there was little concern for safety among the public.
If anyone can find a similar plug more "in keeping" with my age of car I would be delighted...  |
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Ray White
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Location: Derby
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I have found this Plessey n.o.s. "multicon" plug and socket. It looks like a quality item even if it has more terminals than I will ever need.
Any thoughts?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/400983625384 |
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ukdave2002
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| Ray White wrote: | I have found this Plessey n.o.s. "multicon" plug and socket. It looks like a quality item even if it has more terminals than I will ever need.
Any thoughts?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/400983625384 |
That Plessey a connecter designed to be chassis mounted; its uninsulated, not what you want behind a dash. As I previously posted use something like this:
https://www.autoelectricsupplies.co.uk/product/39
Designed for the job, insulated, up to 15 pins and only few quid!
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Ray White
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| Thank you Dave. I will go with that. |
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