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62rebel
Joined: 03 Dec 2007 Posts: 343 Location: Charleston, South Carolina
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Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 3:02 am Post subject: does a Pinto count? |
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it IS 28 years old, 29 this fall! i rescued a 1980 coupe from certain destruction Thursday; it has the 2.3 OHC 4cyl and 4spd gearbox, power rack and pinion, and dealer A/C. the body is pretty solid for a cheap old car and the rust damage is confined to the header bar over the 'screen and the boot rear panel. i fiddled with it a bit today (Friday) and got it running, even with a 1/2 tank of rotten petrol.
i have this overwhelming urge to build a special now........ |
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dave7
Joined: 08 Aug 2008 Posts: 11 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 3:26 am Post subject: |
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I think so. A 2.3L turbo / 5spd from a Thunderbird would be a heck of a lot of fun. |
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Rick Site Admin
Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 22438 Location: UK
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poodge
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 687
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Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:05 am Post subject: |
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Didn't the mk3 Cortina 2 liter engine also come from the Pinto?
The thing I remember about mine is that it leaked oil,no matter how well looked after.It must have been inherent to that particular size,as the mk4 I had also leaked oil. |
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Mog
Joined: 30 Dec 2007 Posts: 661 Location: Sydney
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Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 4:13 am Post subject: |
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Most pommy cars leak oil, it is a tradition ! Jags., Mini's etc. etc. etc..... |
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Penman
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 4755 Location: Swindon, Wilts.
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Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:49 am Post subject: |
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Hi
It's the oil that binds together the sand and dirt that constitutes a road surface once you get out of the "heavily" populated areas. |
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Greeney in France
Joined: 06 Mar 2008 Posts: 1173 Location: Limousin area of France
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Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 7:45 am Post subject: |
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sorry I only just noticed this thread
Yes the pinto has been used on a few brit fords including the Sierra and the Mk1 Escort I had a pinto in my RS2000 and my RS1600
I think later it went into the cosworth sierra too
It was a very good robust engine and stretchable too, I did a bit of tinkering got 150bhp with a good torque curve over the range by changing pistons and high lift camshaft on a stage 3 head
0-60 in 5.5sec top speed was a bit lacking though at 120mph
Yes they always dropped oil via the sump seal and crankshaft seals the sporty escorts at least had the aluminum sump:roll:
I would have loved to tinker with a turbo but costly item in the 80s although I drove a cosworth sierra in the late 80s I nearly lost it on a roundabout due to turbo takeup at an early 1700rpm _________________ www.OldFrenchCars.com
We do these things not to escape life but to prevent life escaping us |
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pigtin
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 1879 Location: Herne Bay
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Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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Mog wrote: | Most pommy cars leak oil, it is a tradition ! Jags., Mini's etc. etc. etc..... |
We've got so much of it to spare and, of course, it's dirt cheap _________________ Due to the onset of my mid eighties I'm no longer sprightly and rarely seen in my Austin special. I have written a book though. https://amzn.eu/d/7rwRRqL |
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62rebel
Joined: 03 Dec 2007 Posts: 343 Location: Charleston, South Carolina
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Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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all things that come from the Earth must return to it someday; Ford was just ensuring that we did our bit...... |
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mk14dr
Joined: 20 Aug 2008 Posts: 18
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 11:10 am Post subject: |
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At aint just pinto's though. My kent xflow, although Ive only just built it, likes to mark its teritory where-ever I park it.
The 'pinto' engine came in just about every ford from 1970ish to 199X
Escort Mk1 + Mk2, Sierra MK1 + MK2 (I think they even did a 1300 pinto in the mk1), Granada Mk1 - MK3 (Including the DOHC) Transits, Cortinas, P100's and ofcourse Capris of all mk's
Also, I was under the assumption that the pinto us europeans know and love shares little if anything with the altogether larger US spec 'pinto'
The YB really is more than just a glorified pinto.
And a reliable 500bhp is not out of reach if you have deep pockets, it'll just be everything else you'l break at that sort of power
However you could always do it on the budget, #200block from a transit, reworked head, a cosworth turbo and manifold and a decent set up (amonst a couple of other details) would see you with a decent useable 200bhp(ish)
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Uncle Joe Guest
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 11:39 am Post subject: |
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After reading this thread, why do I get the feeling that the word ''reliable'' means different things to different people? |
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62rebel
Joined: 03 Dec 2007 Posts: 343 Location: Charleston, South Carolina
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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well; i consider "reliable" to mean that it starts every time i need it to, it gets me from A to B and back every time, and doesn't need constant maintenance and in fact doesn't refuse to operate even if neglected for long periods. try that with most if not ALL modern autos and see if you're not calling the AA man.
a nuisance oil leak doesn't constitute unreliability to me. it reminds me where i've been parking! |
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Uncle Joe Guest
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Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 7:11 am Post subject: |
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I have a tendency to agree with you there, but which would be more reliable, I wonder? To use suggested figures, a 500bhp Pinto engine, or a 500bhp big block? |
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mk14dr
Joined: 20 Aug 2008 Posts: 18
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Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 7:37 am Post subject: |
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Uncle Joe wrote: | I have a tendency to agree with you there, but which would be more reliable, I wonder? To use suggested figures, a 500bhp Pinto engine, or a 500bhp big block? |
An unstressed BBF/BBC is always gonna be more dependable than a big power YB. But they are completely different beasts.
You cant really shoe-horn a BB into a mk1 escort now can ya
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Uncle Joe Guest
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Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 7:41 am Post subject: |
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About 1974, I saw a Chevy small block in a pre-war Fiat Topolino, and they have less room than an Escort....
About the same time, I also saw an HB Viva with an FE Ford big block.
So I think that the answer to your question is yes..... |
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