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1934 Austin 10/4
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've not had a proper prod about yet, but when I've cleared the decks with the other stuff a little, I'll revisit the problem.

I know very little about these Austins, how do they differ mechanically from later 10s, such as the Lichfield and so on? I notice when parts are advertised that they either relate to the chrome rad 32-34 cars, or else the painted rad later ones, and I often wonder how they differ mechanically??

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great photos Rick, car looks quite sound and a really worthwhile project
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah it was a lucky find, only 2 or 3 owners from new and off the road (except for one journey) since the mid 60s. Structure is aok, doors open and shut perfectly (which I wasn't expecting!!). Heres a pic of the engine, I think the previous owner said it has a later carb on it, although there is another one in the boot with it!!


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rick, you do have the later (possibly Cambridge) carb and manifold. Its a very worthwhile mod as the original sidedraught and seems to restrict the performance.
The engine and gearbox differ very little from the 10/4 to the Cambridge and are interchangeable up to the advent of the GS1 in the postwar 10.
Early cars have a crash gearbox and a rather troublesome clutch, I think that by 34-5 they had fitted a more conventional clutch and rudimentary synchromesh.
Late engines had shell bearings and I think the Cambridge had an ali head (ugh).
If you have to remove the engine it comes out, complete with gearbox from under the car.
The best mod I did on mine was to convert it to 12v.
When I get a minute I will send some photos.

p.s. I have been out in the old girl this morning, the brake pedal on the Sprite has seized.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its interesting just how different these oldies are to work on, even when compared to 50s stuff - like setting the points was very different if I remember right

thanks for the info on engine/box removal, I might end up removing the latter, hope that the engine can stay where it is though as that seemed to run reasonably well

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is the engine compartment of my 10/4 showing a few mod's.
As you see there is a downdraught carb and manifold fitted to improve performance.
The rubber hose is non-standard and goes to the tappet cover in order to 'recycle' blowpast.
There is a large dynamo that came from an Armstrong Siddely which provides 12 v through a standard AVC, and note the adaptor and 4 bladed fan to improve cooling when towing the caravan. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t103/donthebat/104engine.jpg
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dashboard of 10/4. A few more mod's. Old Landrover indicator unit modified to fit, used to go down to pub in dark and after trying to turn right on a major road using hand signals and nearly getting 'wiped out' I felt something had to be done. The indicator lamps are from an old Honda motorcycle.
The clothespeg on the choke shaft is absolutely essential on this model, have never seen a 10/4 withoutone. The general 'tattyness' is the product of 21 years of regular use, you should se the state of the new cars I bought throught the same period!1http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t103/donthebat/104dash.jpg
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for taking the photos, interesting to compare underbonnet shots! when I start looking at the Austin in detail (probably when I've got either a Devon or Bedford pickup out of the way) I'll pick your brains re removing the gearbox, just in case there are some tricks I need to know Smile

I'll take some more detailed pics of mine when I can, and put them up on here - its a bit crammed in the garage, but I should be able to get near enough with the camera Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For those at a loss as to what your old car should be used for? May I suggest a champagne picnic with friends on the local Minnis. Please note the wind-up gramaphone behind me with 78s of Al Bowly and the like.
Regrettably the tables and chairs are something of a anachronism and probably came from B&Q and the picnic basket fell off the carrier on the way home.
It's all my fault for using 70 year-old leather straps !! http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t103/donthebat/Whatoldcarsarefor.jpg
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fabulous picture pigtin, like you say perfect excuse to take a little old car out and find somewhere quiet to park up!!!!

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

this was in the local commercial vehicle road run, posted elsewhere but seems appropriate to place it here too, a 10/4 van (with windows added in the 50s)



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great van, the first car I ever tried to drive was a similar vehicle, must have been in 55 or 56.
I have a photo somewhere of a 10/4 doctors coupe that is not all it seems.
Will post when I find it.
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is a 'one-off' 10/4: It belonged to a friend of mine called Monty Mason, who died last year.
Monty had it from the 60s when it was used as everyday transport and at that time it was a "two seater with dickey".
As I understand it; the hood needed replacement and rather than spend a lot of money on a new one, Monty cut the rear of the cab off an Austin 7 and grafted on to the 10/4 to made a weatherproof coupe.
Not happy with the performance Monty also fitted a series 'A' A40 engine and transmission in place of the old sidevalve engine and crash box.

Monty used this car every day up until just before his death. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t103/donthebat/Montys10-4.jpg
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Great car and great story!

Cheers

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not done much to the cabrio of late, but received this nice old pic of a 10/4 tourer the other day, and have just added it to the site


http://www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/austin10.htm

Also heard from someone who has a 10/4 Cabrio restoration project, I'm hoping he'll join up to the forum sometime soon Smile

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