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Penman
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pigtin
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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 11:04 am Post subject: |
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Well, yer live and learn. After running a 10/4 for 23 years I was always under the impression that only the early 10/4s with the ladder chassis were narrow bodied, someone must have told me that.
Going through my Pitman manual I can find no reference to body width, only to the chassis being cross-braced in June 33.
My immediate thoughts were: why go to the expense of tooling for two different widths of body, why not plump for the wider one? Possibly the answer is in the method of construction, there being the two sides and a fairly simple centre section that would not entail too much tooling to have a wider alternative, these are soldered to the two outer shell pressings.
Couldn't be that only the rear wings are narrower and the bodies remain the same? Just a thought, it must be documented somewhere. |
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Rick Site Admin
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pigtin
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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 11:53 am Post subject: |
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Looking at that; it does appear that I have a narrow bodied car. Having just remembered who told me much of what I know about 10/4s I'll pop in and see if he has anything documented.
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Penman
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 4759 Location: Swindon, Wilts.
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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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Hi
pigtin wrote: | Well, yer live and learn. After running a 10/4 for 23 years I was always under the impression that only the early 10/4s with the ladder chassis were narrow bodied, someone must have told me that.
Going through my Pitman manual I can find no reference to body width, only to the chassis being cross-braced in June 33.
My immediate thoughts were: why go to the expense of tooling for two different widths of body, why not plump for the wider one? Possibly the answer is in the method of construction, there being the two sides and a fairly simple centre section that would not entail too much tooling to have a wider alternative, these are soldered to the two outer shell pressings.
Couldn't be that only the rear wings are narrower and the bodies remain the same? Just a thought, it must be documented somewhere. |
Perhaps it will only be possible to resolve this properly by actually having 2 different saloons next to each other in order to compare such things as the amount of overhang the rear wings have over the rear wheels, the internal width at for instance the A post, the B post and behind the rear doors, and to also check if they have the same chassis setup.
With the Cabriolet and Convertible they may not have made enough to warrant having 2 different width bodies. |
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Rick Site Admin
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pigtin
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Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Rick,
Yes, that was at Sellindge. Used to be one of the best shows in Kent.
It also appears at the Great Dorset on Fred Dibnah's 'Steam up' video. _________________ Due to the onset of my mid eighties I'm no longer sprightly and rarely seen in my Austin special. I have written a book though. https://amzn.eu/d/7rwRRqL |
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buzzy bee
Joined: 23 Nov 2007 Posts: 3382 Location: South Cheshire
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Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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Hi
I never got there for one reason or another!
I like the tent on the back of the automobile engineers truck!
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