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Ray White
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Mike. In 1963 two new cars appeared on the scene competing with each other for the mid range buyer; both offering levels of performance and comfort usually associated with more up market products. One was the Rover 2000 and the other was the Triumph 2000. At the time they were something of a sensation and sales took off. The Rover was voted 'car of the rear' and featured some innovative features but drew on a conventional buyer while the Triumph looked more modern and attracted a different, more fashion conscious buyer.
While it may be true to say the Rover was the thinking man's car the Triumph was more trend setting at the time.
I like both of them. |
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peter scott
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I've never driven either but I thought the Rover was the more avant garde design of the two.
Peter
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emmerson
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Location: South East Wales
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I've had both Mk1 and 2 estate cars, consecutively, back in the nineties. Both very good cars, but i think I preferred the look of the Mk2.
I used them both to tow my classic Royale caravan, with which the Mk1 struggled, being only a 2000. The later car was a 2500tc, and was much better, but both could have done with firmer rear springs.
My boss in the 60s/70s had a new one in 1968 which he kept for many years and did spaceship mileage in.
I also had a Rover 2000 for a short while, but much preferred the big six.
I agree with Badhuis - aren't they small today? |
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Longstroke
Joined: 01 Oct 2019
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Location: Wiltshire
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| Da Tow'd - it's a picture of a 1967 Triumph 2000, a British Sixties executive car. As has been said the rival in the UK was the Rover 2000. Both very nice cars and both had their following. The Rover 2000 was a big leap from previous Rovers, and was aimed at a younger market than its P4 predecessor. Only ever driven the later Rover 2200 and 3500 (with a Buick derived V8 engine). Quality cars and easy to dismantle (eg wings and roof unscrew), if not necessarily as easy to put back together again! |
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BigJohn
Joined: 01 Jan 2011
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Location: Wem, Shropshire
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In 1977, as a proby, I did my first driving course. Two of the cars we drove over the month were the Rover 2200TC and the Triumph 2500TC. The Rover was very cramped inside and I found it's handling with four big bobbies in it was not as good as the Triumph, the Triumph also had more grunt.
The third car we used was a Hillman Hunter GLS Holbay, it was a little hooligan, but the Triumph was a more refined car all round.
I ranked them Triumph, Hillman, Rover.
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Da Tow'd
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Thanks Longstroke
it has a pleasing shape
cheers
Hank |
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alastairq
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Location: East Yorkshire
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| badhuis wrote: | Beautiful Mk1. Interesting to know these were called "big saloon". Not so big now anymore  |
Depends on how one quantifies 'big?'
I suspect most modern 'big' saloons may well exceed the Triumph in terms of volume or footprint, but it is surprising how moderns lack interior length, height and width, for the intended human occupants?
As I have discovered, my old american compact, whilst being assumed to be 'large'...is shorter & narrower than a modern Mondeo, yet exceeds that Mondeo in terms of shoulder width and footwell length.
[A trip in a friend's Mondeo last week gave me the usual modernist feelings of claustrophobia in a very short space of time...must be all that cosseting foam 7 plastic?]
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alanb
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Location: Berkshire.
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As a teenager my father owned a Hillman minx which at just under 13 foot 6 long and little more than 5 feet wide was considered a medium sized family car capable of carrying 6 people 3 on the bench seat in front and 3 in the rear.
My 3 year old Mercedes C class is almost 15 and a half feet long and almost 6 feet wide and is considered by Mercedes to be in the small car category.
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Rick
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mikeC
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Plenty of Austin Sevens exercising their lungs in the winter sunshine:
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mikeC
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Yes Rick, the Pre-WarAustin Seven Club's annual Dave Wilcox Memorial Trial.
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Rootes75
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Location: The Somerset Levels
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We have just been out for a lovely New Years Day run, not in our classic though.
On New Years Day they run the local Street-Wells bus service with classic and vintage buses, no fares just by donation. We got on a 1934 Leyland Lion for the 20 min trip into Wells, had a wander round for an hour or so then got on a 1969 Bristol National Express coach for the trip back to Street.
Superb day and I take my hat off to those who preserve and enjoy the wonderful old buses.
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