Classic cars forum & vehicle restoration.

[Peter_L]

I remember from way back, listening to what seemed like hours of discussion on knock off hubs.

As information is king, this is a link to an article on the subject.

http://classicmotorsports.net/articles/wire-wheels-classic-cars/

A simple view of knock off hubs are the attractive wheels and center piece. The engineering, wear rates and inherent dangers are more complex.

Could this chassis/engine be from a 1934 Triumph Gloria ?

[JohnDale]

Interesting post Beeza,thanks for that. The small cage arrangement just in front of the rear axle is similar to many fibreglass competition vehicles to give some protection from self disconnecting propshafts under stress.
Cheers,JD.
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1958 Ford Zephyr Mk2 Convertible
1976 Ford Granada Ghia.

[bsa500]

Peter L
Thanks for that site that will be very useful.
Peter S
I have not seen any stampings yet that seems the one thing this car doesn't have any!. I was removing more bits last night and the chassis is looking more and more SS. The original struts are rivetted on ? the not bolted?. Oh wheelbsae is 90 inches 7 foot 6.

[peter scott]

Hi Andy,

Given the gearbox with remote change I think it's more likely that it started life as an SSII rather than as a Standard Little Nine.

Although lots of parts may have changed I think the photos in this manual are your best clues. The chassis of the SSII changed to the cruciform for 1934 so that doesn't help much.

As to the 1932/33 SSII with the 7' 6" (7' 7" in 1933) chassis another piece of information that might show whether you have an original rear axle is the ratio. This was 5.22:1 in 1932 and 5.43 in 1933.

Front springs were 27.25" long x 1.5" wide in 1932, 28" x 1.5" in 1933.
Rear springs were 39" x 1" in 1932 and 41" x 1" in 1933.

http://www.jag-lovers.org/brochures/ss34_manual.html

There are other brochures in the section but not as informative.
http://www.jag-lovers.org/brochures/section_ss.html

I see I was wrong to suggest that all SSIIs had a water pump.

Unfortunately I don't think there is a chassis number stamped on the chassis. The number was on a plate on the scuttle but the engine numbers for the 1932 cars run from 124016 to 139949
and for 1933 from 135348 to 159525. I think the engine number should be stamped on the protrusion on the off side of the cylinder block near the top, towards the rear.

Peter


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http://www.nostalgiatech.co.uk
1939 SS Jaguar 2 1/2 litre saloon

[bsa500]

Well more details for you. Front axle I found loads of numbers. Stamped on the top was 59423 cast on the front 1-701 S-CF and cast on the back 147A-5. Also Standard club got back to me and they say the engine is a flying 10C 1267CC 1938.Could be the previous owner put a engine in if the previous had blown.
If the chassis can be pinned down to just those two years it may help in my quest with the DVLA in the future. To maybe not retain my original number of GY4896 which falls into the correct time period Jun 1932-Sept 1933, but at least some sort of age related instead of a Q plate.

[peter scott]

See if you can find the engine number. (see my previous post.)

P.
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http://www.nostalgiatech.co.uk
1939 SS Jaguar 2 1/2 litre saloon

[bsa500]

Sorry did find the engine number and its a Standard one BC124E which leads me to think its been changed at some time.
Looking at the pics from the brochures the SSII engine looks like mine,fan driven off the dynamo and no upper pulley,only mine is prob a 1938 10,prob??

[bsa500]

Also what clues are on the rear axle as I have not really looked at that yet.

[peter scott]

Hi Andy,

I'm sorry but I'm not really familiar with SSII rear axles but test it for ratio and check against my previous post.

Measure your spring lengths too.

Peter
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1939 SS Jaguar 2 1/2 litre saloon

[bsa500]

I shall have stab at that this weekend.
thanks for all the help with this
Andy

[peter scott]

There are 56 SSIIs known to exist world wide so you have quite a rare car.

Peter
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1939 SS Jaguar 2 1/2 litre saloon

[bsa500]

Peter,
I have measured the springs and they come in at 27 and a bit inches on the front and 39 inches on the back. Seems well planted in 1932. 56 only in the world I shall treat her with much care,at least repair the chassis etc to good order.
Also have you seen this on ebay....
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1934-SS-TWO-SS-2-SS-II-Barn-find-resto-project-/251275453124?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3a812f22c4

[peter scott]

Hi Andy,

Yes, the eBay one has a different (cruciform) chassis and body to that for your car but the value will be similar (like for like condition).

Peter
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1939 SS Jaguar 2 1/2 litre saloon

[Roger-hatchy]

Hi
Are we talking Standard 9 chassis

My DLM has a standard 9 chassis, 1935 and is a crusiform chassis.

Might not be of much help but found this a few years ago, also a member of this site posted a scan of a S9 chassis with crusiform, I think it was on my DLM thread.
I'll have a look

http://www.standardmotorclub.org.uk/cars/post_vintage/features/french9.htm

[bsa500]

That Standard nine engine is similar but the distributer is mounted on the side where as mine is mounted on the head like most sidevalve standards I have seen.
The more I look at the chassis and sort which cross members are original and which are added the more convinced she is an SSII/Jag. Especially seeing as the wheel base and spring lengths are spot on for a 1932. I shall take better pictures when all the junk is off.